jdckelly Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. its rather too early to be saying Martinez is doing better than Moyes did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. its rather too early to be saying Martinez is doing better than Moyes did. Maybe so, but aesthetically they are on a different planet almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. its rather too early to be saying Martinez is doing better than Moyes did. Maybe so, but aesthetically they are on a different planet almost. wouldn't agree, moyes team played some excellent stuff in his last few seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. its rather too early to be saying Martinez is doing better than Moyes did. Maybe so, but aesthetically they are on a different planet almost. wouldn't agree, moyes team played some excellent stuff in his last few seasons. Few Everton fans I know would argue that Moyes' football compared to Martinez' is like chalk and cheese... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 As he's on my tv just now I'm gonna say Ketsbaia. No other reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I've decided I'll go on a one-man campaign to get Paco Jémez appointed NUFC manager. http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9710/tb51.jpg I'll join you on that campaign - from what I've read about him, he sounds awesome. There are so many foreign managers out there who could breathe life into our squad and probably wouldn't need that much cash (either in terms of salary or transfer budget). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Jémez just has a fantastic philosophy and attitude. And he's got results with one of the smallest teams in La Liga. His enthusiasm is infectious, I just love how he goes to Bernabéu or Camp Nou and just goes "f*** this small team shit, I always plan to win". Most of the time he gets a rude awakening, but he's the only manager to have won the possession stat versus Barça since 2008. Funny how a burly no nonsense centreback has gone on to become such an attack-minded manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'd take Moyes, he built Everton to that level and we are so fucked in many ways now I think we might require something like that. We'd go on some ride with Laudrup but I'd fear it would be very short-lived. Would happily give Ketsbaia a go just because he's class and loves the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It would seem churlish to not want Moyes over Pardew, but I'd be against the appointment him or anyone like him - a middle of the road kind of manager. He hasn't achieved anything outstanding in his career (other than landing the Man Utd job) and although yes he did well at Everton, Martinez is showing one can do even better with the right philosophy and methods. Moyes is Pardew but much better. Same kind of ideals though. Clean sheets, hard work, defensive shape, direct football, experience, predominantly English or British centric etc. Totally agree. Same here and for all the same reasons. Moyes is a competent manager, but not one who would fire my imagination much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guardian article on Paco Jemez for those who are interested - http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I just want someone who is positive, comes across well and plays decent football. Agree with HTT about Moyes as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I just want someone who is positive, comes across well and plays decent football. Agree with HTT about Moyes as well. Although it's a less important point, i'd add professional to that list as well - you know, someone who doesn't alienate players, headbut and insult opposition staff on the touchline, continually deflect blame onto others and generally drag the club's name through the dirt. I'd also like someone who can actually improve our players, both first teamers and members of the fringe squad, rather than making them worse. I'm not a massive fan of Moyes I do at least think he'd bring those 2 things but then so would most top level managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guardian article on Paco Jemez for those who are interested - http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe Forgot about that article, Sid Lowe is always great when writing about our league. At times of crisis, people spend money to see us play: we've got a responsibility to play nice football, otherwise what the hell are they spending their money for? If, as well as being small, you're a coward, you're going to get a beating from all sides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Now i want Paco without even knowing about him before this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'd go for two top hats. Ashley draws 17 random names from 1 and then the position they play or whether they're a sub from the other. What's the worst that could happen? Five left backs on the field at once? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'd be satisfied with pretty much anyone except Joe Kinnear, Dennis Wise and Tony Pulis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guardian article on Paco Jemez for those who are interested - http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe Forgot about that article, Sid Lowe is always great when writing about our league. At times of crisis, people spend money to see us play: we've got a responsibility to play nice football, otherwise what the hell are they spending their money for? If, as well as being small, you're a coward, you're going to get a beating from all sides Those are two fantastic quotes. This sports thing is actually supposed to be entertainment, and it amazes me how many managers don't feel it is their responsibility to produce a side that is pleasing to watch. Bunch of cretins man. That second quote in particular is great, and so apt. It basically summarizes Pardew perfectly. An absolute coward in every respect, even against sides much smaller than ours he's a coward. Bigging up Gillingham for goodness sake. Gillingham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Guardian article on Paco Jemez for those who are interested - http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/17/rayo-vallecano-all-or-nothing-approach-sid-lowe Forgot about that article, Sid Lowe is always great when writing about our league. At times of crisis, people spend money to see us play: we've got a responsibility to play nice football, otherwise what the hell are they spending their money for? If, as well as being small, you're a coward, you're going to get a beating from all sides I like the fella already. Small time mentality at a club like Newcastle United, fuck off with that shit Alan Pardew and the Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Christ that coats quote was said for Pardew, had to be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I'm clinging to the hope, however unlikely, that after fucking up every managerial appointment so far Ashley has turned to Graham Carr and asked for a shortlist of continental managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Needs to be a continental manager or a british manager with experience on the continent IMO. Those with experience abroad as managers or even players prior to that will always have a more open mind and a broader spectrum of how football is played and organized from top to bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Someone who is positive, has clear tactics and doesn't talk shite will do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Someone who is positive, has clear tactics and doesn't talk shite will do. That's a surprisingly hard set of criteria for a football manager TBH... you might have to make do with 2 out of 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Needs to be a continental manager or a british manager with experience on the continent IMO. Those with experience abroad as managers or even players prior to that will always have a more open mind and a broader spectrum of how football is played and organized from top to bottom. It'll be Tony Adams now. Pleb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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