xLiaaamx Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't Lova get 16 goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't Lova get 16 goals? 13 in the league and having watched almost all the games there wasn't a time that a case could be made for him starting ahead of anyone really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands was completely obsolete after we got promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands was completely obsolete after we got promoted. Scored 1 in 4, pretty good for a substitute/squad player of a newly promoted side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands was nowhere near as effective as Gouffran appears to be now in this purple patch. Scored 1 in 2, and a much better ratio when you look at starts only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Pretty sure he didn't get 1 in 4, like. He was godawful in the PL, anyway and never got near to it again after we binned him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands was nowhere near as effective as Gouffran appears to be now in this purple patch. Scored 1 in 2, and a much better ratio when you look at starts only. And how much did he affect games? For someone who was meant to be a pure finisher, he was just not up to it and was pushed out of the side by Marlon Harewood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands was nowhere near as effective as Gouffran appears to be now in this purple patch. Scored 1 in 2, and a much better ratio when you look at starts only. And how much did he affect games? For someone who was meant to be a pure finisher, he was just not up to it and was pushed out of the side by Marlon Harewood. What the hell? He scored 16 goals that season. Harewood got 1. Again this is in the backdrop of playing a number of those appearances from the wing or from the bench. Hughton and Pardew liked to use him not as an out and out striker but instead as someone who could make clever runs off the ball to create gaps for Nolan and Carroll to exploit. He was a highly effective and underrated player for us at the time he was with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Harewood got around 5 in 10, if memory serves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Pretty sure he didn't get 1 in 4, like. He was godawful in the PL, anyway and never got near to it again after we binned him. Scored 10 in 40 appearances after promotion. A lot of appearances as a sub or left winger under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Harewood got around 5 in 10, if memory serves. Just checked, 5 in 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Pretty sure he didn't get 1 in 4, like. He was godawful in the PL, anyway and never got near to it again after we binned him. Scored 10 in 40 appearances after promotion. A lot of appearances as a sub or left winger under Pardew. Not in the Premier League he didn't get 10. I don't really remember him playing LW under Pardew at all, either. Jonas was there. He was up front or benched. Waste of time even discussing it, to be honest. Lovenkrands is a good lad but a perfect example of a player who did nothing before us, or after us. I hope the days of us signing rubbish like that are gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Never in my life did I think I'd say this, but the mighty Gouf has to start on Saturday Feel dirty just typing it. I know what you mean but he's been immense so far. I lay the blame for his decline squarely at Pardew's door (and there's a good pile of shit outside that particular door already). If you're an accountant and get told to go and work as a surgeon then it's inevitable you are going to look a bit average. Gouffran was never a defensive winger in a million years. That melt Pardew needs publically outing for the fraud he is but he just keeps on getting away with it. He's still playing as a defensive winger, just at a lower level Very true but when you combine that with a rocket of a left foot and generally making sensible decisions when he's on the ball, that makes him a useful player at this level. What's more disappointing is that we don't seem to have anyone who can be trusted to play as a genuine attacking winger on that flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Nearly, nearly went for that one. Fucksake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The most comparable player would be Lovenkrands, good in the Championship, can fulfil a useful squad role in the Premier League under the right conditions. Lovenkrands is a riddiculous comparison he was an aging player who'd spent the majority of his career in the SPL when we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I've given up, when he tells me to take out the sub appearances of one player to look at a goals ratio, then uses the subs appearances to pad out the apps of another to make the ratio look worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Will never be prem quality, hasn't a clue how to get away from a marker with skill, pace or strength Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 He doesn't have any of those things, that's why. It is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 We're in the Championship. He's a million miles away from being a PL quality player. This is it like. Not unlike Rafa to make good use of that type of player either, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Like a new signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The Gouff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Have to respect how he's worked all the time he's been here really, even during the shit days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Surely even Ronaldo is considering a Gouffran tattoo on his lower back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Really poor penalty to concede, but made up for it with that goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Surely even Ronaldo is considering a Gouffran tattoo on his lower back? He might consider it on one of his arse cheeks to match his Colo and Tiote designs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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