S.S.R. Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Anyone pickup on St. Niall being a complete w***** on the commentary? Whose idea was that to put him on for this game? Its like having Bobby Charlton in for the Manchester derby ffs. Erm yeah...he was fizzing in his knickers. He'll enjoy tonight, sit back in his chair... ...celebrate by opening a few cans... ...put it into first... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Devils advocate a little here.. Cabaye was dead on his feet and was having a p*ss poor game, Jonas had played in a LB last two games and had done very well there so to choose him to start there was not a decision I had issue with before the game. Not defending Pardew and think he is to blame for today I just think those two points can be argued either way Jonas starting at left back was laughable. haven't checked but i'll bet many thought it was a good idea pre game. I wasn't sure but wasn't massivly against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Well.. had looked decent there last two games and I think Pardew wanted players on the pitch who had been here long enough to know what derby day means and who had been through some of them. TBH Jonas at LB was the least of our problems, that utter s*** ball he played that cost us the first goal had nothing to do with him playing at LB was just a dreadful decision and poorly executed pass. Jonas at left back wasn't the least of our problems and the first goal is proof of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 haven't checked but i'll bet many thought it was a good idea pre game. I wasn't sure but wasn't massivly against it. I can only speak for myself and I thought that it was shit, the coward finding a place for Jonas while leaving a natural defender on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Well.. had looked decent there last two games and I think Pardew wanted players on the pitch who had been here long enough to know what derby day means and who had been through some of them. TBH Jonas at LB was the least of our problems, that utter s*** ball he played that cost us the first goal had nothing to do with him playing at LB was just a dreadful decision and poorly executed pass. Jonas at left back wasn't the least of our problems and the first goal is proof of that. Was a horrific attempt at a cross field pass, nowt to do with him being at LB just poor football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Jonas fell over any time any one came close to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 It should go without saying, but I'm more ashamed by what happened after the match. The people involved aren't clever enough to realise that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Well.. had looked decent there last two games and I think Pardew wanted players on the pitch who had been here long enough to know what derby day means and who had been through some of them. TBH Jonas at LB was the least of our problems, that utter s*** ball he played that cost us the first goal had nothing to do with him playing at LB was just a dreadful decision and poorly executed pass. Jonas at left back wasn't the least of our problems and the first goal is proof of that. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070116174140/starwars/images/b/be/Ackbar.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Devils advocate a little here.. Cabaye was dead on his feet and was having a p*ss poor game, Jonas had played in a LB last two games and had done very well there so to choose him to start there was not a decision I had issue with before the game. Not defending Pardew and think he is to blame for today I just think those two points can be argued either way Jonas starting at left back was laughable. He played left back for Argentina.He has played left back for NUFC before and has been good before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I didn't have a problem with Jonas at LB but then I assumed it was being done as an attacking strategy, that we didn't expect to be doing too much defending, rightly so against one of the only attacking teams (previously) worse than us in the division. As it turned out, we spent the first half camped on our 18 yard line hacking it away in sheer panic and trying to play the classic Pardew counter attack ("See that black bloke right down there, about 70 yards away in the yellow boots? Kick it towards him") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Was a horrific attempt at a cross field pass, nowt to do with him being at LB just poor football. If he wasn't at left back he wasn't on the pitch, it had everything to do with him being at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Jonas fell over any time any one came close to him. didn't fall over as he showed johnson in side onto his only foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Was a horrific attempt at a cross field pass, nowt to do with him being at LB just poor football. If he wasn't at left back he wasn't on the pitch, it had everything to do with him being at left back. that just daft man.. you issue is that he played him at all... the mistake he made was not a direct consequence of him playing at LB, he trued to switch play, telegraphed it and under hit it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What's depressing is that everything we've (rightly) accused Sunderland fans of being, our lot are doing it in spades tonight. Due to hypocrisy, we can't laugh at 5-1 anymore, we can't call them scum anymore.....we have more in common than we'd like to admit. It's giving football-haters more to bash us with and it's giving the North East's reputation a battering. Us and Sunderland are as bad as each other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Incidentally - meant to ask, not sure if this has been discussed already elsewhere - but what was all that commotion after the second goal down in the SW corner/Gallowgate where three or four very big lads in their 40s were basically stamping and piledriving into a teenage lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 that just daft man.. you issue is that he played him at all... the mistake he made was not a direct consequence of him playing at LB, he trued to switch play, telegraphed it and under hit it.. My issue is that he was moved into a position to get him into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 that just daft man.. you issue is that he played him at all... the mistake he made was not a direct consequence of him playing at LB, he trued to switch play, telegraphed it and under hit it.. My issue is that he was moved into a position to get him into the team. Imo, the only position at which Jonas offers any value anymore is central midfield. He's fairly decent in a midfield 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 that just daft man.. you issue is that he played him at all... the mistake he made was not a direct consequence of him playing at LB, he trued to switch play, telegraphed it and under hit it.. My issue is that he was moved into a position to get him into the team. Imo, the only position at which Jonas offers any value anymore is central midfield. He's fairly decent in a midfield 3. Been saying this too. He's not the best there but the way Anita, Perch and Tiote have performed there I actually like Jonas there for some odd reason. He'll do the donkey work if needed and can carry a ball out of trouble with his strength. I don't think he's good enough to be starting but if he has too it has to be in place of Tiote at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 that just daft man.. you issue is that he played him at all... the mistake he made was not a direct consequence of him playing at LB, he trued to switch play, telegraphed it and under hit it.. My issue is that he was moved into a position to get him into the team. Imo, the only position at which Jonas offers any value anymore is central midfield. He's fairly decent in a midfield 3. It's no longer an opinion man. It;s become a fact. Given that the mackems had no great shakes in cm, Jonas should have started alongside Cabaye and Marveaux in a 3. We can all see Jonas can't play anywhere else except the manager. Also a bit that way with Obertan and his couple of excellent cameos at LW. Never to be seen there again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Embarrassing day from start to finish. Some of the dregs of humanity that follow both clubs man! Whether its folk punching police horses or folk singing about wishing people dead, hugely embarrassing. The less said about Pardew and the actual game the better though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What's depressing is that everything we've (rightly) accused Sunderland fans of being, our lot are doing it in spades tonight. Due to hypocrisy, we can't laugh at 5-1 anymore, we can't call them scum anymore.....we have more in common than we'd like to admit. It's giving football-haters more to bash us with and it's giving the North East's reputation a battering. Us and Sunderland are as bad as each other Every club has total idiots, anyone who thought we didn't was completely deluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Embarrassing day from start to finish. Some of the dregs of humanity that follow both clubs man! Whether its folk punching police horses or folk singing about wishing people dead, hugely embarrassing. The less said about Pardew and the actual game the better though. I know the police get a lot of stick but I thought they were brilliant today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 3-0 at home. 3-0. Jesus. I just didnt ever see that coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Incidentally - meant to ask, not sure if this has been discussed already elsewhere - but what was all that commotion after the second goal down in the SW corner/Gallowgate where three or four very big lads in their 40s were basically stamping and piledriving into a teenage lad? I'll try again, then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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