BrettNUFC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 jesus f***ing knew it was a mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 As much as I think Tiote is massively limited, he finds himself in those positions enough to indicate that he should practice his shooting every day, rather than choose not to shoot. Obviously if he already does that and this is the result then he should just stop. He's already an established professional footballer like, seems to suggest he's never going to be any good at shooting. Not really. Beckham practiced free kicks every day. Shearer practiced penalties every day. If you're going to get into that position nigh on 5 times a game, you should at least practice and practice until you're capable of producing a save at least. If the very best professionals do it, then obviously those that aren't the best should too. Aye, both from the age of about 13 though. I get what you're saying, he should be better at it and if training helps then excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 If we qualified for Europe then maybe Ashley would have learned and rather than take millions out of the club he'll spend it on players. Pigs might fly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 i can't understand what 'other lot' are trying to say about the first half vs. chelsea and second half vs. spurs like they seem to be under the impression that we gave some type of italian style defensive masterclass when the reality is chelsea were very wasteful on the break for a team of their class and spurs missed X amount of clear cut chances that would have changed the entire shape of the match, and some of them were f***ing diabolical misses and all + great saves obviously call it luck, good fortune or whatever the f*** you want but we all know both games might easily have gone very differently due to the tactics of pardew, as it is we won so he looks like a genius to some - 5th season all over again with prettier football Luck or whatever- I would take your f***ing hand off for that. But then we'd have to play in that silly Europa League thing again. The club wouldn't like that. I'm not even being facetious either, they genuinely wouldn't. Means they'd have to spend an 10x more on increased wages than potential prize money. If we did get in Pardew would be told to sack it off imho. Not sure he would though, probably got told the same last time off the accountant twats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 let me clarify for those of you incapable of understanding (or deliberately being arseholes), in the comparison to the 5th season i was referring to the fact we got a lot of results in games where we were the second best team for major parts and nicked a goal through having a top quality striker, we rarely dominated teams home or away, we deliberately sat back on leads and rode our luck on many occasions, we had trouble breaking down teams who came to SJP and parked the bus we're a better attacking force now, play nicer football, but many of the same failings are there i'm afraid like everyone else, i'd be ecstatic if we finished 5th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 now we're actually capable of dominating teams and the manager won't let them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. ian, we know this, which is why at the time people were saying that basing a gameplan on 9 players rigidly defending and firing long balls to ba to fight for was not sustainable...turns out it was not sustainable, who'd have thunk it? the point is you develop right? we've done that to a degree, we can play good football and hurt teams, yet pardew deliberately stops us from doing this when we go in front Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. ian, we know this, which is why at the time people were saying that basing a gameplan on 9 players rigidly defending and firing long balls to ba to fight for was not sustainable...turns out it was not sustainable, who'd have thunk it? the point is you develop right? we've done that to a degree, we can play good football and hurt teams, yet pardew deliberately stops us from doing this when we go in front I don't really believe this, but we'll have to agree to disagree I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Pardew has told us on countless occasions that Europe isn't something he can deal with so hopefully he'll get fifth again and resign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. I think 7th is the best we can realistically hope for with a sneaking possibility of 6th if Spurs go totally off the rails. Either would be good achievements which no one could knock, but we could just as easily end up 13th yet, there's a long way to go and we'll find out a lot more about this team by January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. I think 7th is the best we can realistically hope for with a sneaking possibility of 6th if Spurs go totally off the rails. Either would be good achievements which no one could knock, but we could just as easily end up 13th 18th yet, there's a long way to go and we'll find out a lot more about this team by January. FYP. We've had a decent start, but there's plenty of time left to fall into a death spiral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 KI, you are - and I mean this absolutely sincerely - a collossal bellend. You've got such a nerve to take an extreme attitude against personality quirks that you yourself are guilty of, more than most. You are a genuinely unlikeable person. If he's a bellend you're the cheese. Never known such an attention whore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I literally don't think it's possible to finish 5th unless you're doing a lot of things right. We didn't dominate a lot of teams, but if you dominate a lot of teams and do everything else we did you finish higher than 5th anyway. I think 7th is the best we can realistically hope for with a sneaking possibility of 6th if Spurs go totally off the rails. Either would be good achievements which no one could knock, but we could just as easily end up 13th 18th yet, there's a long way to go and we'll find out a lot more about this team by January. FYP. We've had a decent start, but there's plenty of time left to fall into a death spiral. A long term injury to Remy for example would put us right in the shitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 jesus f***ing knew it was a mistake It wasn't a mistake, some people probably can't see the end of their nose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Inochi is fucking hilarious like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 KI, you are - and I mean this absolutely sincerely - a collossal bellend. You've got such a nerve to take an extreme attitude against personality quirks that you yourself are guilty of, more than most. You are a genuinely unlikeable person. If he's a bellend you're the cheese. Never known such an attention whore. I'm going to use that line at some point this week, class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We want to be careful we don't keep winning like. We might end up in the ghastly Europe thing again. Logistical nightmare for Pards that stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We want to be careful we don't keep winning like. We might end up in the ghastly Europe thing again. Logistical nightmare for Pards that stuff. Need to update your avatar to Williamson or Ameobi, fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We want to be careful we don't keep winning like. We might end up in the ghastly Europe thing again. Logistical nightmare for Pards that stuff. Need to update your avatar to Williamson or Ameobi, fella. ....or Pardew! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I honestly don't understand why we are lucky to have 3 points =/= Norwich are unlucky to have 0 point. Isn't that the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A draw? Anyway it's not about us being lucky or Norwich being unlucky, it's just that the way we approach games when ahead relies on a lot of luck, or to put it a different way, on the opposition not playing well and/or not taking their chances. In a sense, when we sit back and allow the opposition to use the ball against us, we're lucky if they completely fail to make the most of it and take their chances, it's not like we're shutting teams out when we do this, Italian style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't think we are that bad against Norwich. I do agree we have chance to concede another goal but that is due to personnel error (Colo) rather than system failure. In the end we have performed well enough throughout the whole match to get the 3 points. Yes we definitely can do better but we deserved all 3 points. I wont count that as luck. Similar to Chelsea, we performed well enough to contain their threat and they only got one clear cut chance which didn't materialize due to poor finishing. Given our effort I don't count that as a luck win either, even Jose admitted that we deserved all 3. The only luck I agree is the spurs one. We should lose that one given our display and number of chances given to our opponent. But that's it. To claim that all 3 matches are lucky is huge disgrace towards the players, nevermind the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 You always need luck to win in sports, especially when both teams are playing at a high level. Pardew may not be a good manager but I don't think he's a particularly lucky one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 he's the luckiest manager i've seen at NUFC in 20+ years of watching, almost everyone before him was characterised by awful fortune, not this bellend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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