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That is fucking nuts. What happened leading up to that?

Player went in late on another player and gave a free kick. The camera focused on the referee and in the box where the players were waiting for the freely like something happened which made the referee give out at least 1 red card.
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Hillsborough proramme on bbc2. :(

 

 

This is the ESPN 30 for 30 I think? If it is then some parts are really upsetting especially the crush

The first bit was upsetting enough. Mothers ignoring their sons throw away comments about "going to win" and thinking nowt of it only for them never to return... fucking grim

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Hillsborough proramme on bbc2. :(

 

 

This is the ESPN 30 for 30 I think? If it is then some parts are really upsetting especially the crush

The first bit was upsetting enough. Mothers ignoring their sons throw away comments about "going to win" and thinking nowt of it only for them never to return... f***ing grim

 

They show bodies crushed up later at the fence

It's awful and really upsetting

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Can anyone explain the differences between the Lord Justice Taylor report and what we've got now? The documentary didn't spend long on the Taylor report but it appeared to suggest he came to the same (correct) conclusions, but was simply ignored?

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Can anyone explain the differences between the Lord Justice Taylor report and what we've got now? The documentary didn't spend long on the Taylor report but it appeared to suggest he came to the same (correct) conclusions, but was simply ignored?

 

That is true.  Most of the information that has made people sit up and take notice this time has actually always been in the public domain but for whatever reason, it has been ignored.  The focus after the Taylor report all seemed to be about developing the stadiums.

 

 

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Can anyone explain the differences between the Lord Justice Taylor report and what we've got now? The documentary didn't spend long on the Taylor report but it appeared to suggest he came to the same (correct) conclusions, but was simply ignored?

 

'But Mrs Thatcher did voice concern that a 1989 report into Hillsborough constituted a “devastating criticism” of police.

 

The comment came in a handwritten note in the margin of a civil servant’s memo informing her that the Home Secretary planned to welcome the broad thrust of Lord Taylor’s interim report on its publication in August 1989.

 

Mrs Thatcher had already been warned the interim report was “very damning” of police but attached “little or no blame” to Liverpool fans.

 

She was told in a memo from a senior civil servant the interim report found the chief superintendent in charge at Hillsborough “behaved in an indecisive fashion” and senior officers infuriated the judge by seeking to “duck all responsibility when giving evidence” to his inquiry.

 

The memo made clear Home Secretary Mr Hurd thought South Yorkshire Chief Constable Peter Wright would have to resign, adding: “The enormity of the disaster, and the extent to which the inquiry blames the police, demand this.”

 

It added: “The defensive, and at times close to deceitful, behaviour by the senior officers in South Yorkshire sounds depressingly familiar.”

 

The interim report would “sap confidence in the police force” and could encourage aggressive behaviour by fans towards officers, said the memo, adding: “Liverpool fans will feel vindicated.”

 

But Mrs Thatcher made clear in her handwritten note she did not want to give the government’s full backing to Lord Taylor’s criticisms, only to the way in which he had conducted his inquiry and made recommendations for action.

 

She wrote: “What do we mean by ‘welcoming the broad thrust of the report’? The broad thrust is devastating criticism of the police. Is that for us to welcome? Surely we welcome the thoroughness of the report and its recommendations – M.T.”

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