Kilcline Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 If anyone got on Rosenior at 11/2 before Maresca was confirmed as gone, well played Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, Cf said: So the Brighton/Chelsea model of financial success trumps sporting success? Don't get me wrong - all clubs will want to engage in this sort of trading every now and then to balance the books but if you've got a position needs filling then sometimes it makes sense to fill it with someone who you know will succeed. It's like us with Wissa - there's likely little resale value there but if he's the difference between CL or not then it's paid for that way. Depends on the fee and level of player. If you can get a top-class older player at a discounted rate due to contract situation or age, you do it (Kane, Hazard in theory, Van Persie, Lewandowski). Or just straight up for free like the Real Madrid approach. A premium on the fee for a 29-yo I don't think you do. £55m for Watkins or Wissa is bad business imo. These aren't top talents. That doesn't mean they can't contribute well though. Less of an issue for Man U than us. Casemiro is similar - good player but bad business. Don't pay a premium for a player of that age. Where I think £20m for Martinez is good business. Fee isn't massive. Brings a lot of leadership to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Whatever happens at Manu, Froggy 100% backs it. When it doesn’t work out and they pivot, he 100% backs it. If they rehired Amorim at the weekend, he’d defend it to the hilt. It’s his schtick. I don’t expect an honest response from Froggy but I often read a witty one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Froggy said: I do laugh at this. People spent the last 14 months laughing at Amorim saying that he's out of his depth and is very lucky to be in a job. Now he's sacked and the board are clueless for doing it. Was it a mistake then? Everything they've done has been a mistake, the whole Amorim affair has been laughable from start to finish. They brought in a very inexperienced manager to play his style of football which they micro-managed at the first opportunity. Yes you've been poor despite your position but there's noticeable progress and as soon as he directs a bit of attention the board's way they boot him half way through a season. To bring in a care taker and then spend 6 months working out who next to throw under the bus. The way that group sit in the stands together all over bearing makes me gag. A bunch of talentless suits who apparently are some crack team put together by someone who clearly doesn't have a clue. I'm aware the Glazer's have a huge part in this also, but it all just seems so hapless. I do feel he was out of his depth and lucky to be there, but you know if he'd toed the line he'd still be in a job. I'm not in disagreement about sacking him now, but I also think it's foolish. What's the new plan and direction now? What genius idea do Ratcliffe, Barrada, Brailsford, Wilcox et al have now? It's like The Apprentice. A group of self entitled know nowts struggling to sell cupcakes to kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Chelsea aren’t a serious football club, we don’t need to worry about them ever being a force again while Boehly is there. They’ll get results at times because they have very talented players but they’ll always be a fucking mess with that mess of a human in charge of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I was thinking of Leroy Rosenior when this news broke and I'd just misremembered his name. Apparently he had a son who has had a playing career prior to stepping into management in the last few years. This entirely passed me by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stal said: I was thinking of Leroy Rosenior when this news broke and I'd just misremembered his name. Apparently he had a son who has had a playing career prior to stepping into management in the last few years. This entirely passed me by. Leroy Rojunior Edited January 6 by elbee909 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Amorim is probably still here (for now) if he doesn’t fly off the handle at that press conference at the weekend. His position was untenable at that point. He of all people shouldn’t have been hired in the first place if Ratcliffe and Co. were adamant about calling the shots on the pitch. They want a patsy just like Chelsea do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Froggy said: Dream stuff for most clubs. Froggy the pretend modesty is easy to see through you know Nobody is convinced that Ten Hag was anything other than a disaster and Amorim too. Man Utd don't have to deal with PSR issues like most other clubs so failing to ever challenge for the title is inexcusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 years for Rosenior is mental. No chance he's even seeing a third of that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 18 minutes ago, Lotus said: Whatever happens at Manu, Froggy 100% backs it. When it doesn’t work out and they pivot, he 100% backs it. If they rehired Amorim at the weekend, he’d defend it to the hilt. It’s his schtick. I don’t expect an honest response from Froggy but I often read a witty one. Only a select few are deserving of honest responses. There have been many things at the club that I haven't backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lotus Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Froggy said: Only a select few are deserving of honest responses. There have been many things at the club that I haven't backed. You ‘display’ admirable loyalty while on enemy territory. It’s your craic and I’m glad you keep it going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 20 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Everything they've done has been a mistake, the whole Amorim affair has been laughable from start to finish. They brought in a very inexperienced manager to play his style of football which they micro-managed at the first opportunity. Yes you've been poor despite your position but there's noticeable progress and as soon as he directs a bit of attention the board's way they boot him half way through a season. To bring in a care taker and then spend 6 months working out who next to throw under the bus. The way that group sit in the stands together all over bearing makes me gag. A bunch of talentless suits who apparently are some crack team put together by someone who clearly doesn't have a clue. I'm aware the Glazer's have a huge part in this also, but it all just seems so hapless. I do feel he was out of his depth and lucky to be there, but you know if he'd toed the line he'd still be in a job. I'm not in disagreement about sacking him now, but I also think it's foolish. What's the new plan and direction now? What genius idea do Ratcliffe, Barrada, Brailsford, Wilcox et al have now? It's like The Apprentice. A group of self entitled know nowts struggling to sell cupcakes to kids. How can you look at City's dominance, while Berrada and Wilcox were integral, and call them no nowts. Brailsford isn't even there anymore. Come on Branko. I'd also say the reason we're waiting to the summer is due to the amount of managers out of contract. Silva, Iraola, Tuchel etc. What's the rush? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Lotus said: You ‘display’ admirable loyalty while on enemy territory. It’s your craic and I’m glad you keep it going. I've always been fiercely loyal to my club. It's not just on here. Don't make the mistake of thinking I agree with absolutely everything though. Far from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Froggy said: How can you look at City's dominance, while Berrada and Wilcox were integral, and call them no nowts. Brailsford isn't even there anymore. Come on Branko. I'd also say the reason we're waiting to the summer is due to the amount of managers out of contract. Silva, Iraola, Tuchel etc. What's the rush? Wilcox was a youth coach at city, he wasn't executive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Froggy said: I've always been fiercely loyal to my club. It's not just on here. Don't make the mistake of thinking I agree with absolutely everything though. Far from it. Well, we’d never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 9 minutes ago, SteV said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'm not even sure they ever believed in Amorim's system deep down. From what I hear, the reserves downwards didn't convert to the same tactics, which appears to be a common approach. So it would've ended with this endless conveyer belt of youth players coming through and having to adapt to a) the premier league and b) some mental formation they've never played in. Him wanting Neves is hilarious too. Nearly 29 year old Portuguese guy, who's played in Qatar for nearly 3 seasons and will cost a bomb in wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: How can you look at City's dominance, while Berrada and Wilcox were integral, and call them no nowts. Brailsford isn't even there anymore. Come on Branko. I'd also say the reason we're waiting to the summer is due to the amount of managers out of contract. Silva, Iraola, Tuchel etc. What's the rush? I don't make a habit of following careers of board members, but I'm sure Berrada was within a much sounder structure at City with a lot of help and Wilcox was academy coach. We'll see how their Man Utd careers pan out. They might have some success, the point isnt really about individuals and more the group as a whole, though. It's just all felt shambolic with the intent to protect the "management group" who are all seemingly either not football people or inexperienced in the game. I mean I love it, dont get me wrong To be so in on the Amorim project then bin him this soon is indicative of their lack of awareness, imo. We'll see who you get next. Its got to be right. But there's also 5 months of football left to play before that, which will be interesting. I almost feel sorry for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just seen Strasbourg have 2 wins in 10 under Rosenior too. Clearly they just want a coach, who'll be a yes man and have next to no input on anything bar coaching/picking the team. They'll continue to sign players purely for profit and revenue maximisation. Genuinely more of a corporation than a football club. Hopefully he's a complete and utter failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 22 minutes ago, Fak said: 6 years for Rosenior is mental. No chance he's even seeing a third of that out. 6 Years! Chelsea’s 18 permanent Premier League bosses — excluding current manager Enzo Maresca — have averaged 623 days in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Just seen Strasbourg have 2 wins in 10 under Rosenior too. Clearly they just want a coach, who'll be a yes man and have next to no input on anything bar coaching/picking the team. They'll continue to sign players purely for profit and revenue maximisation. Genuinely more of a corporation than a football club. Hopefully he's a complete and utter failure. How can he be anything but ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 16 minutes ago, CallumG6 said: Just in time to become Spurs Caretaker Manager in March when they sacked Frank, then moan in the summer that he keeps being overlooked for the job full-time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 When did the word "Interim" replace "Caretaker" anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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