Crystal Palace manager

[ujpest doza]

 

 

Managed to spend about an hour with this bloke at Bolton away a few seasons ago

Yip, he's a complete and utter loon and pain in the arse.

 

[Guest firetotheworks]

The talent that Pardew has had is a much higher level than anyone after Robson has had and arguably including Robson in a few positions.

 

One trouble is that everyone else has improved. With the TV money, medium sized clubs who can stay in the Premiership can actually build reasonable sides by attracting good players from all over Europe. (eg Swansea, Southampton). The proportion of a club's income that comes from gate receipts as opposed to TV has shrunk, so I think that's equalled the standard a bit amongst the non-CL contenders.

 

A reservation I have about our transfer policy is its inflexibility in not looking at players who are reaching the end of their careers. Sometimes one or two veterans can add a lot, particularly in terms of leadership, on and off the field. We're relying on young players coming through and, so far, that's yet to bear fruit. It's now really difficult for youngsters to break into the first team through the ranks, unless they're really good. And at our club, there's pressure.

 

I don't agree that everyone else has improved at all, at least not wholesale. Teams can always push for the cups, Europe and the CL. Doing that with the players that we had, despite Pardew being our manager is proof enough to me that those places are up for grabs when the 'big teams' are falling under par. Everyone has this idea that it goes Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs but it's never that simple, Liverpool and Spurs fall short regularly and those places HAVE TO be filled by other teams. Look at Everton, Southampton, look at us a couple of seasons ago. It's an absolute myth that it's all sewn up. It's what SSN and those clubs want you to think.

 

I don't see a problem in having a good old head in a team, or in a squad. I agree with that providing it's one or two. Teams with older heads are generally shit in a league that relies upon physicality and pace.

[Cronky]

The talent that Pardew has had is a much higher level than anyone after Robson has had and arguably including Robson in a few positions.

 

One trouble is that everyone else has improved. With the TV money, medium sized clubs who can stay in the Premiership can actually build reasonable sides by attracting good players from all over Europe. (eg Swansea, Southampton). The proportion of a club's income that comes from gate receipts as opposed to TV has shrunk, so I think that's equalled the standard a bit amongst the non-CL contenders.

 

A reservation I have about our transfer policy is its inflexibility in not looking at players who are reaching the end of their careers. Sometimes one or two veterans can add a lot, particularly in terms of leadership, on and off the field. We're relying on young players coming through and, so far, that's yet to bear fruit. It's now really difficult for youngsters to break into the first team through the ranks, unless they're really good. And at our club, there's pressure.

 

I don't agree that everyone else has improved at all, at least not wholesale. Teams can always push for the cups, Europe and the CL. Doing that with the players that we had, despite Pardew being our manager is proof enough to me that those places are up for grabs when the 'big teams' are falling under par. Everyone has this idea that it goes Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs but it's never that simple, Liverpool and Spurs fall short regularly and those places HAVE TO be filled by other teams. Look at Everton, Southampton, look at us a couple of seasons ago. It's an absolute myth that it's all sewn up. It's what SSN and those clubs want you to think.

 

I don't see a problem in having a good old head in a team, or in a squad. I agree with that providing it's one or two. Teams with older heads are generally shit in a league that relies upon physicality and pace.

 

When I said that teams have improved, I wasn't thinking of the CL, I was thinking of the teams who generally fill the places from 7th to 17th.

 

The top four is still very tough to break into. I can't agree with you on that. You had Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal monopolising it for quite a few seasons, and the only real change has been Man City burrowing their way in by spending vast amounts of money. We've managed it twice, Everton once and Spurs once, and that's all. That shows that whilst it's not impossible, it's very difficult.

[Unbelievable]

Before I moved here he say by me at an away match and I felt dead guilty as I literally could not understand what he was saying but he seemed like a nice geezer

 

Glad not just me then. Lived in Newcastle for 2 years without too much problems understanding the locale, but didn't understand a word from that

[binnsy]

f***ing hell, Cliffy.

 

oh god please don't say that was shown on SSN? 

[Guest neesy111]

The talent that Pardew has had is a much higher level than anyone after Robson has had and arguably including Robson in a few positions.

 

One trouble is that everyone else has improved. With the TV money, medium sized clubs who can stay in the Premiership can actually build reasonable sides by attracting good players from all over Europe. (eg Swansea, Southampton). The proportion of a club's income that comes from gate receipts as opposed to TV has shrunk, so I think that's equalled the standard a bit amongst the non-CL contenders.

 

A reservation I have about our transfer policy is its inflexibility in not looking at players who are reaching the end of their careers. Sometimes one or two veterans can add a lot, particularly in terms of leadership, on and off the field. We're relying on young players coming through and, so far, that's yet to bear fruit. It's now really difficult for youngsters to break into the first team through the ranks, unless they're really good. And at our club, there's pressure.

 

I don't agree that everyone else has improved at all, at least not wholesale. Teams can always push for the cups, Europe and the CL. Doing that with the players that we had, despite Pardew being our manager is proof enough to me that those places are up for grabs when the 'big teams' are falling under par. Everyone has this idea that it goes Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs but it's never that simple, Liverpool and Spurs fall short regularly and those places HAVE TO be filled by other teams. Look at Everton, Southampton, look at us a couple of seasons ago. It's an absolute myth that it's all sewn up. It's what SSN and those clubs want you to think.

 

I don't see a problem in having a good old head in a team, or in a squad. I agree with that providing it's one or two. Teams with older heads are generally shit in a league that relies upon physicality and pace.

 

When I said that teams have improved, I wasn't thinking of the CL, I was thinking of the teams who generally fill the places from 7th to 17th.

 

The top four is still very tough to break into. I can't agree with you on that. You had Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal monopolising it for quite a few seasons, and the only real change has been Man City burrowing their way in by spending vast amounts of money. We've managed it twice, Everton once and Spurs once, and that's all. That shows that whilst it's not impossible, it's very difficult.

 

Spurs finished twice in the top 4, sadly for them one of the seasons they did Chelsea won the CL when finishing 6th.

[Doctor Zaius]

 

 

That fucking bloke man. How does he get to literally every away game, surely he cant have a job.

[Interpolic]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/11/arsenal-tottenham-fans-question-clubs

 

Yeah it's fine when they do it!

 

Not even going to read it because the sub-headline is "Both sides are financially healthy but the fans feel increasingly disconnected due to the respective boards and their actions" and it's going to fucking wind me up.

[sh74]

This shithead been sacked yet?

[LV]

This shithead been sacked yet?

 

12 moar yeahs

[Wullie]

That wanker Barclay, as predictable as the sun rising: http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/patrick-barclay-arsenal-should-be-worried-by-the-tensions-at-white-hart-lane-not-tottenham-9853013.html

 

The fans are entitled to believe their club should be where West Ham are, or even taking the role of Mauricio Pochettino’s old club Southampton, inspiring leaders of a pack threatening the status of under-achievers such as Arsenal, at least temporarily, have become.

[Dave]

Couldn't fucking make it up.

 

Hope they all die in a fire.

[Tachikoma]

Hope he falls into a septic tank, preferably his own.

[BillClinton]

It's annoying that the media in a country I don't live in can piss me off so much. Cunts.

[ponsaelius]

London football journalists are the 4th Reich

[steve_69]

 

 

That f***ing bloke man. How does he get to literally every away game, surely he cant have a job.

 

Made the mistake of sitting next to that guy in Shearer's Bar after a game a few season's back. Wanted to kill myself shortly after

[Dan Gleebals]

Really good piece by Luke Edwards in the Telegraph

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11221168/Newcastle-United-fans-were-right-to-call-for-Alan-Pardew-to-be-sacked-and-to-argue-otherwise-is-insulting.html

 

 

 

Good piece

 

Absolutely spot on.

[The College Dropout]

Rob Lee has said he was desperate to lose the derby in the rain to get rid of Gullit. ujpest would rather have won, had another season of him and missed out on Robson. True fan.

I reckon some of the players might've felt like that. Then he wasn't fired. A lot of players get like that because they know they'll be okay - especially Spurs & Chelsea. Don't like the manager? Under-perform he'll be gone in 6 months. Our players don't have that luxury and eventually they've had to back the manager.

 

It's the same with the fans. He's not going anywhere. He's pretty sewn the job up for the season. Might as well get behind the team, he's nee going nowhere for awhile man.

[The College Dropout]

Great article and it's brilliant that Edward's pointed out that's the way society is going.

 

Bellamy's comments at the weekend bothered me. He was giving the big one about how we expect to be better than Liverpool but we really shouldn't have that expectation. I thought he had some bloody nerve. For the majority of the time he spent here he was on Liverpool-like wages. We have top support. We should demand to compete on that level. If we get top 7 revenue and wages, we should be in the top 7. If we have the potential to get either of the two in the top 4 - we should try.

 

We won't get there with Pardew.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Strange that, Bellamy was part of a team that challenged for the title and finished top 4 twice, he knows what this club could and should aspire to do. Where Liverpool finish is completley irrelevant.

[Paully]

What a wanker!

 

 

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Patrick Barclay: Message to Newcastle supporters - it's time to say sorry to Alan Pardew

 

PATRICK BARCLAY

 

Published: 30 October 2014

Updated: 09:54, 30 October 2014

Maybe it is true that you can’t fool the public. But the public can certainly make fools of themselves.

Take, for example, the Newcastle fans who not only wanted Alan Pardew sacked as manager but took to arriving at matches with placards saying so. Many such messages were held aloft during the defeat at Stoke a month ago. Yet even then, with Newcastle seeking their first Premier League win, there had been signs of life: a 10-man victory at Crystal Palace in the Capital One Cup; a two-goal comeback to earn a point at home to Hull; a general refusal to succumb to derision.

Now look at them. Two wins and a draw in the League have made Pardew a strong candidate for Barclays’ Manager Of The Month and last night his men — with a few bright boys thrown in — brought off an even more impressive cup triumph at Manchester City, earning a visit to Tottenham in the quarter-finals. So will the “Sorry Alan” placards be flourished on Saturday, when Liverpool arrive at St James’ Park? I’d like to think so.

Pardew may have his flaws — the shoving of a linesman in 2012 was not pretty, and nor was the gentle nutting of Hull’s David Meyler eight months ago — but he can manage a football team and Newcastle owner Mike Ashley deserves credit for keeping him in charge.

Another reason for the fans to cheer up is the emergence of youngsters. It’s always refreshing, and the dart of pace that enabled 18-year-old Rolando Aarons to score early at the Etihad suggested he may have more in common with Raheem Sterling than a Jamaican birthplace.

Adam Armstrong, 17, also started, while the 22-year-old Sammy Ameobi will be keen to return to White Hart Lane, where he scored his first Premier League goal on Sunday. Newcastle’s summer buys were interesting too — all 25 or under. So it’s a squad built to last. With admirably durable manager.

 

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/patrick-barclay-arsenal-should-be-worried-by-the-tensions-at-white-hart-lane-not-tottenham-9853013.html

 

Patrick Barclay: Arsenal should be worried by the tensions at White Hart Lane, not Tottenham

 

PATRICK BARCLAY

 

Published: 11 November 2014

Updated: 12:53, 11 November 2014

Arsenal are the ones who should be worried about the latest tensions at White Hart Lane, not Tottenham.

For there was a time when to be only three points behind their lofty rivals was cause for satisfaction at the Lane. Not now.

TOTTENHAM IN CRISIS:

The fans are entitled to believe their club should be where West Ham are, or even taking the role of Mauricio Pochettino’s old club Southampton, inspiring leaders of a pack threatening the status of under-achievers such as Arsenal, at least temporarily, have become.

Instead, Spurs have themselves joined the light punchers. This should have been a good season for them. The players acquired with the Gareth Bale money should have bedded in - and bought into the methods of a promising new manager. Yet they have lost four of their last five home matches and Emmanuel Adebayor is moaning about the crowd, who this morning hit back in the form of Martin Cloake, a board member for the Tottenham Supporters’ Trust whose name belies an admirable candour.

 

[Cronky]

I thought the article was confused and rambling.

 

I don't think anyone was disputing the supporters' right to express the opinion that Pardew should be sacked. What is in dispute is whether that opinion was a) wise and b) helpful to the team in the manner in which it was expressed. Edwards seems to mix the two up.

 

The idea that the upturn in form is because of the protest is a novel one, and one that Edwards is rather forcing himself to believe, I suspect. These kind of protests heap pressure on a team, and often lead to a downward spiral.

 

PS - And the idea that it is more difficult to complain or protest in today's society is rubbish.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

There is unheard-of levels of contradiction in how the media have treated Newcastle fans compared to other clubs for sure, but I don't really rate that Edwards article as a piece of writing. The point is correct though.

[themanupstairs]

I thought the article was confused and rambling.

 

I don't think anyone was disputing the supporters' right to express the opinion that Pardew should be sacked. What is in dispute is whether that opinion was a) wise and b) helpful to the team in the manner in which it was expressed. Edwards seems to mix the two up.

 

The idea that the upturn in form is because of the protest is a novel one, and one that Edwards is rather forcing himself to believe, I suspect. These kind of protests heap pressure on a team, and often lead to a downward spiral.

 

PS - And the idea that it is more difficult to complain or protest in today's society is rubbish.

 

When the pressure is unfounded or knee-jerk I would agree. In our case that's utter bollocks because Pardew got everything he deserved, and the pressure was even kind to him if I'm honest.

[Belfast Boy]

I thought the article was confused and rambling.

 

I don't think anyone was disputing the supporters' right to express the opinion that Pardew should be sacked. What is in dispute is whether that opinion was a) wise and b) helpful to the team in the manner in which it was expressed. Edwards seems to mix the two up.

 

The idea that the upturn in form is because of the protest is a novel one, and one that Edwards is rather forcing himself to believe, I suspect. These kind of protests heap pressure on a team, and often lead to a downward spiral.

 

PS - And the idea that it is more difficult to complain or protest in today's society is rubbish.

 

When the pressure is unfounded or knee-jerk I would agree. In our case that's utter bollocks because Pardew got everything he deserved, and the pressure was even kind to him if I'm honest.

 

I take it you mean he deserved everything he got. Because he certainly got off lightly when the pressure should have bee ramped up to its highest and unfortunately the sackpardew campaign was largely ignored by the majority in the ground.