wor jackie Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pretty disgraceful to bring a dead fan into your post like that to try and discredit something. Sorry, but that is totally uncalled for, the point i was making is that i find it a bit upsetting some of the comments that people are mongs etc just because they happen to love a football team and just happen to want to attend every game and want to win every game and quite frankly have been through a lot, lot worse than this situation, also i have not discredited the protest, i was trying to make the point that people on here have a go at loyal fans for blindly following the team. As it happens i didnt like pardew and did want him gone but i'm terrified what will happen next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pretty disgraceful to bring a dead fan into your post like that to try and discredit something. Sorry, but that is totally uncalled for, the point i was making is that i find it a bit upsetting some of the comments that people are mongs etc just because they happen to love a football team and just happen to want to attend every game and want to win every game and quite frankly have been through a lot, lot worse than this situation, also i have not discredited the protest, i was trying to make the point that people on here have a go at loyal fans for blindly following the team. As it happens i didnt like pardew and did want him gone but i'm terrified what will happen next. Nah not having that. What you said is 'I honestly think he wouldn't have liked the abuse or SackPardew'. This being a man who is dead and can't speak for himself. You are a disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 No it bloody isn't. Some of the s**** on here wanting us to lose was embarrassing and incredibly spoilt and helps to fuel the belief among other fans that NUFC fans are deluded. I would have happily taken defeats if it has meant getting rid of Pardew earlier and I don't feel embarrassed saying that either because our recent run of defeats was always on the cards under the shit manager. The time Pardew has been here has been the worst I've ever felt watching us and that includes when we could have been relegated to the third division under Keegan the first time he managed us. I would rather stand in piss for 90 minutes in the pouring rain with no roof over my head than sit inside St James' watching a team just doing enough to stay in the Premiership and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Tbh it does not matter if John would have agreed or not I still think he and you are wrong. In my view the fans that follow the club blindly like yourself are a massive issue. Its like religion or buying a brand. Football is a product they sell to you now and your brainwashed into thinking its your job to support the team. Back in the day I can understand this because the owner and players cared and your money would be invested. Now the players don't give a fuck about you and Ashley is pissing himself laughing. Now you hurt the club by going. If your did not go everything would change I promise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pretty disgraceful to bring a dead fan into your post like that to try and discredit something. Sorry, but that is totally uncalled for, the point i was making is that i find it a bit upsetting some of the comments that people are mongs etc just because they happen to love a football team and just happen to want to attend every game and want to win every game and quite frankly have been through a lot, lot worse than this situation, also i have not discredited the protest, i was trying to make the point that people on here have a go at loyal fans for blindly following the team. As it happens i didnt like pardew and did want him gone but i'm terrified what will happen next. If you look back, it's generally to individuals that called anyone not going to matches and blindly supporting the team 'not real fans'...there was a disagreement between the two schools of thought and it was a two way thing. No one just out of the blue called people going to matches mongs...the people that buy the merch, yet bang on about Ashley being the problem, or those that abuse anti-Pardew supporters, or don't understand the concept of 'short term pain for long term gain' and would rather be superfans and pretend to not be able to comprehend the idea that NUFC losing matches may be to our benefit, and then call anyone that believes that 'not real fans'...they're mongs, absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This argument isn't helped by huge generalisations from both sides. Everyone wants the best for NUFC, we just all see different ways of achieving it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The only time I wanted us to lose was around the Stoke away game this year when another defeat could have spelled the end of Pardew. For me a defeat or 2 is worth it to get rid of a terrible manager, that's the long term picture I was looking at. From then onwards it was more not caring that we lost rather than actually wanting to lose. The not caring came from a disconnect through apathy and also a silver lining in that it heaps the pressure on Pardew. When I look back on the last few months I genuinely don't think I did anything wrong because my intentions were as loyal to our club as anyone elses. The fans who totally backed Pardew weren't a cancer to the club but they were a problem for sure. When a manager isn't good enough (and Pardew wasn't) you have to stand up and do something not just sit back and accept it because it means 'stability' and because you fear the next guy could be worse. Also some of these fans were aggressive and threatening to other fans who wanted Pardew to go, where is the respect there? These fans demanded respect with one hand and showed a lack of it with the other. The entire situation was messed up and is the only time in recent memory when I could see a massive divide in our fanbase. The whole thing can only be summed up as yet another symptom of Pardew's terrible time here and I for one am delighted it's over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I cannot see any circumstances where a defeat for NUFC would be deemed as acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This argument isn't helped by huge generalisations from both sides. Everyone wants the best for NUFC, we just all see different ways of achieving it. It all boils down to why we won't be successful. The fan base never unite for a cause. You always have one set of fans who think they're better than another. We always laugh at Liverpool (particularly their fans) but they always get shit done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I cannot see any circumstances where a defeat for NUFC would be deemed as acceptable. To hasten the departure of a terrible manager and a terrible man like Pardew. It's an absolute no-brainer to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This argument isn't helped by huge generalisations from both sides. Everyone wants the best for NUFC, we just all see different ways of achieving it. Perfect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 When people wanted us to lose there looked like no hope. When the likes of Perez and Aarons broke through I wanted us to win again, but that does not mean I wanted Pardew here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I cannot see any circumstances where a defeat for NUFC would be deemed as acceptable. Last day of the season, we've already won the league and a loss to (insert team) sends the mackems down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 People have the right to do whatever they want, it's really as simple as that. I gave mine up after they didnt replace cabaye but I'd never sit here and call people for continuing to do so. Likewise, I don't expect anyone to give me grief for giving it up. Everyone has their own reasons. It does turn your stomach reading some of the abuse match goers get mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I agree that many of the loyal fans are part of the problem, and they frustrate me so much. But it's not their intention, most ultimately want what we want. Many are misinformed, intellectually lazy or have a different view of what 'support' is, but I hope to celebrate a trophy alongside them one day. They're an obstacle, not an enemy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This argument isn't helped by huge generalisations from both sides. Everyone wants the best for NUFC, we just all see different ways of achieving it. One side actually isn't a way of achieving it though, in fact it's the absolute opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 There's something wrong with people who could combine to force Alan Pardew into his dugout in may through sheer vitriol, then after a short break from proceedings cease to think it was worth the bother despite our worst pl start in Xx years. I'm sorry but everyone who sat in silence can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Keegan said a few times that the match goers are easily pleased which is undeniable true. No other team in the world gets 50k every home game yet hasn't had anything to show for it since 1969. If everyone took Keegan's words to heart as they claim to, they'd admit what we're seeing now is a disgrace. Not because we as a club aren't good enough but because we're actively not trying to be good enough. Consolidation is our goal yet Keegan actually banned everyone from saying that word when we got promoted in 1993. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 "I refuse to go to sleep until Pardew signs (and has us finish in a Europa League place). It's a shambles!" http://www.holmesdale.net/page.php?id=106&tid=150035&page=71 Its going to be a very long day for this person. "Randy Gardner holds the scientifically documented record for the longest period of time a human being has intentionally gone without sleep not using stimulants of any kind. Gardner stayed awake for 264 hours (11 days), breaking the previous record of 260 hours held by Tom Rounds of Honolulu." What is this, I don't even... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I cannot see any circumstances where a defeat for NUFC would be deemed as acceptable. Your problem is that Ashley and Pardew didn't agree with you...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Well that's half the problem solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I just wanted to thank whoever did all this! It may have taken longer than expected but if not for these guys we might have nver gotten rid of Pardew and got Rafa. Pretty sure this was there end game to get a good manager after Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I just wanted to thank whoever did all this! It may have taken longer than expected but if not for these guys we might have nver gotten rid of Pardew and got Rafa. Pretty sure this was there end game to get a good manager after Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 The SP lot forced Pardew to join Palace and no doubt are the same people behind AO which forced Ashley to eventually see sense, even if it is simply self preservation. They are or will go down as a huge positive aspect of the club's history IMO. In 20 years or so I'll look back and think of these lot in the same way I think of the Magpie group. Thank fuck they gave a fuck! They forced positive change and empowered fans. If only more took up the batten we might have gotting rid of Ashley and as good as today has been, it will never be as sweet as the day he fucks off along with Wonga and thumb head etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Never occurred to me but that's true, take a bow son(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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