samptime29 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 While not wanting to see any player injured this could be a bit of luck for Steve Bruce. He was never going to drop Lascelles being the club captain but Lejeune is just a far superior player and far better distribution from the back. The front three will benefit hugely from this. He needs to displace Clark first though, he’s done well that lad when called upon, in fairness. Can't drop Clark ATM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 If Lejeune is back then Clark is a good option in the middle in the interim. Ideally working towards a Lejeune-Fernandez-Schar back three - and with Willems and Yedlin in form, that looks decent (objectively) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I think he’ll be a bigger miss than some realise, for all his flaws on the ball, he will leave a big gap back there in the air, at set pieces, at leading and with his pace and recovery getting back. He’s their best defender in terms of just defending easily. No-one else fills me with as much confidence in terms of strictly defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 While he has no particular stand out abilities, he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses either. he is a very decent defender, the leadership in the backline will be missed. Can't see Schar or Lejeune screaming at Dummett for being his usual 20 yards out of place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 we'll miss his leadership and presence if nothing else imo, not sure we have anyone else in the squad close to him in that respect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 we'll miss his leadership and presence if nothing else imo, not sure we have anyone else in the squad close to him in that respect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Not sure it was even that last night. The balance was all wrong. Clark on the left of the three, Schar on the right, Fernandez in the centre organising. I don’t think Clark is good enough to lead a defence but he’s been more than fine when he’s played where he has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 As soon as PD was named in the team it was down the drain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 We hardly talk about him much here judging by how far back this thread is, but he really deserves a lot of praise for his performance most of this season, it annoys me to see players like Tyrone Mings getting ahead of him in the national team when he's been preforming the way he has been for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 We hardly talk about him much here judging by how far back this thread is, but he really deserves a lot of praise for his performance most of this season, it annoys me to see players like Tyrone Mings getting ahead of the in the national team when he's been preforming the way he has been for us. Still think the forum hates him for his Ashley comments. Before then he was loved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I really like him. Needs a different thread title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 So uncomfortable on the ball when pressured. Don’t think he’ll ever play for England. Cracking defender and leader, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Can’t wait to see him lift all the trophies #Saudioptimism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’m still undecided. I like him and want him to do well, but god he’s no good on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Playing next to a morphing into Jaap Stam, Fernandez makes a big difference to Lascelles imo. Class performance though. Alongside even more quality he could actually find himself in the England picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 He is a fantastic defender like. Better than Mings imo who has managed caps lately. I'd also say he's a better defender than Maguire so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 He is a fantastic defender like. Better than Mings imo who has managed caps lately. I'd also say he's a better defender than Maguire so... Aye. I don’t think Maguire offers a great deal more than wor Jamal tbh, who I think has been fantastic for us for the most part. Really grew as a player under Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I also feel like Lascelles is the type of character who if he got capped it would actually improve him as a player, both in stature and confidence. Some cower a little under the pressure, I think Jamaal would have the correct mentality for it and we'd see the benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Don’t think he’s anywhere near good enough for England. A big part of a centre-back role with England the majority of matches is being able to step out from defence confidently and pick a pass against teams sat with two deep defensive lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Don’t think he’s anywhere near good enough for England. A big part of a centre-back role with England the majority of matches is being able to step out from defence confidently and pick a pass against teams sat with two deep defensive lines. Mings, Stones, Maguire all loads better than him like? At passing maybe, defending nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Lascelles has actually added carrying the ball out of defence to his game of late, when the opportunity arises. Given though, how we have next to no possession and don't ever have to worry about teams sitting deep against us, he's hardly going to be doing it multiple times a game. His technical game and positioning has improved a lot IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Lascelles has actually added carrying the ball out of defence to his game of late, when the opportunity arises. Given though, how we have next to no possession and don't ever have to worry about teams sitting deep against us, he's hardly going to be doing it multiple times a game. His technical game and positioning has improved a lot IMO. Quite a powerful runner with the ball when he gets going. Far less awkward and bumbling than Maguire for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I think it gets overlooked how dominant he is in the air too and how important that is. I don’t think there’s another English centre back that commands the area like he does. Mings is probably the closest but has the draw back of being an absolute over rated calamity. I’d definitely have him in the England squad but he doesn’t seem to be in favour Southgate for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 All I ever see is stones carrying the ball in to an opposition player for England. If that’s what makes you England quality then fair enough, Jamaal isn’t your guy. You really don’t need two centre backs who pass out of defence, not when you have others around strong at it. I think that’s why it works well for us, Jamaal Does all the proper defending and his keeper and partner (and fbs) can take care of distribution. When he does come out it’s usually a shock to the opposition and he gets away with it. Think it was against Sheffield Utd (Certainly a game since the restart) he ran with the ball in to their half and no one was ready to pick him up. He has improved in this department, but probably not enough to allow posters to forget/forgive his pro Ashley comments So will always now be a lumper of a centre who needs replacing as soon as the money hits our account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 All I ever see is stones carrying the ball in to an opposition player for England. If that’s what makes you England quality then fair enough, Jamaal isn’t your guy. You really don’t need two centre backs who pass out of defence, not when you have others around strong at it. I think that’s why it works well for us, Jamaal Does all the proper defending and his keeper and partner (and fbs) can take care of distribution. When he does come out it’s usually a shock to the opposition and he gets away with it. Think it was against Sheffield Utd (Certainly a game since the restart) he ran with the ball in to their half and no one was ready to pick him up. He has improved in this department, but probably not enough to allow posters to forget/forgive his pro Ashley comments So will always now be a lumper of a centre who needs replacing as soon as the money hits our account. It seems like he’s quite conservative in his decision making - he always looks for a low risk pass and almost never carries it. From memory of the incident you mentioned, he took a long moment to decide to dribble. He indeed looked strong and positive, but he didn’t exactly ooze confidence. Still, impressive to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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