toontownman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 His head has been in the wrong place for a long time. He needs dropping and a wake up call. An absolute liability right now when we need leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Never liked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 An embarrassment beyond all embarrassments this guy is not only still here but captain of the team as well. Donkey isn't even the word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 He's the captain yet he didn't even protest that howler of a pen. What the fuck was going on in his head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Mad how far he's fallen since Rafa. Not to turn this into another Rafa wankfest but there was a period when some were talking about him being worth an England call-up. He looked like a capable albeit limited defender and an influential leader. Now he's just neither. Just a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 How can a professional footballer be so fucking shit at passing the ball a mere few yards, controlling a ball or just being in control of the ball full stop. And he’s no fucking Captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: The lack of protest for the penalty really concerns me. Aye, I’d be raging at that, to the point I’d be willing to get a yellow or worse, absolute silence from our so-called leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: The lack of protest for the penalty really concerns me. Can you imagine a Fergie side letting that go? I'd drop him just for that, let alone the pen which was more about the shit pass than the actual tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Bit sluggish on reading the game and reaction, one that needs upgrading and quite soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Horrible defender and at fault for so many goals and mistakes. Really needs replacing as soon as possible and it’s completely baffling how he is getting a game ahead of Fernandez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) He needs to up his game a bit like but feel he's also been left a lot more exposed than previous under Benitez. Howe has a very difficult job in establishing an alternative to open, high pressure football half way through a season, he's got to try and implement a plan A and a plan B, we'll get there like, but it's gonna be tough. Edited December 12, 2021 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I've never really rated him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: I don’t get not using Fede. I really don’t Either doesn't want him because of pace or its something off the field related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I'd give Wilson the permanent captaincy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, joeyt said: I'd give Wilson the permanent captaincy I would too, but not just yet. Either at the end of January or at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 hours ago, ManDoon said: The lack of protest for the penalty really concerns me. Said exactly this at the time. Don't get why he wasn't standing over Maddison shouting, calling him a cheat and at least making him shit his pants a bit. Also, the more you carry on, accuse him of diving, tell the ref he has cheated, basically make a scene about it, the more likely it is that VAR will at least take an interest. But no, just a shrug of the shoulders and a "cheers ref." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ah give the lad a move come January or the summer. Not his fault, he's just done here. He might still turn out to be an ok lower half/Championship defender, but the constant turmoil means he's never actually been allowed to progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Can defend a long ball kind of team but anyone that plays it on the deck he looks complete garbage. Fortunately we are playing Liverpool and Man City next ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Time and time again he gets picked, why? Needs binned forever . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 That idiotic ball he played to Shelvey prior to the penalty is what fucked us up yesterday. Such a stupid pass from a player that doesn’t think. Led to the goal and we never recovered. Look back over our goals and he is at fault for so many. Such a weak link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Rafa got him look decent with a decent pairing and more protection in front of him. Too limited at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Not a leader of the defence, looks far more immobile and hesitant than I remember from previous seasons. Absolutely woeful on the ball. Fine against shithouse teams like Burnley. Not really many of them in this league, unfortunately. Plenty in the one below, mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I'm a fan of Lascelles, he's given a lot to the club but he's often complacent nowadays. Should be benched for a bit in the short term and in the summer we should be proactive in our attempts to offload him, Shelvey and any other fucker who has grown stale at the club. Regardless of what league we're in. Most of these players have defeat and failure ingrained in them by now. It's time for a new mentality and new leadership. A successful January window can bring much needed competition for places in the squad. This should raise the performance levels of some of the old, tired guard.. Previously I was under the opinion that we must not overspend in January but fuck that.. we're crying for quality in absolutely all areas. It's a very tough ask though - the kind of players we need wouldn't come just cause we're full of Saudi dollars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, junkhead said: I'm a fan of Lascelles, he's given a lot to the club but he's often complacent nowadays. Should be benched for a bit in the short term and in the summer we should be proactive in our attempts to offload him, Shelvey and any other fucker who has grown stale at the club. Regardless of what league we're in. Most of these players have defeat and failure ingrained in them by now. It's time for a new mentality and new leadership. A successful January window can bring much needed competition for places in the squad. This should raise the performance levels of some of the old, tired guard.. Previously I was under the opinion that we must not overspend in January but fuck that.. we're crying for quality in absolutely all areas. It's a very tough ask though - the kind of players we need wouldn't come just cause we're full of Saudi dollars. I agree. Nowt against the lad but he peaked under Rafa and led by example. In the two years since he's allowed the club, and himself, to fester. I know most will never forgive him for that, but it's got to be soul-destroying trying to motivate Ashley employees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I also really like him but he’s been shite. I don’t think he gets the credit he’s deserved in the past but I can’t see a reasonable argument to have him in over Fernandez at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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