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We are nothing like them though to be fair and neither is our business model

 

Spending nothing > Gambling millions and losing

 

Edit - I would also contribute.  You can't base your view of an entire club on the social media presence.  There are some really sound Sunderland fans who I am happy to have a drink with

My point entirely.
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Couple of my best friends are Sunderland fans. They just have some really weird views sometimes, like putting the failure of Newcastle above their own success. They would rather go down to League One and have Newcastle relegated than have both of us stay up, for example. I find it strange.

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That's probably the most extreme example of Hate Newcastle> Love Sunderland that I've ever heard of like. Are you absolutely sure that that's what they mean? That's utterly mental.

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9,000 free tickets a match has to be bollocks surely like.

 

It isn't. I posted something about that on here last year. My cousin who worked in the Commercial department at SAFC at the time told me that.

 

The genius of it is you don't even need to then get those people through the turnstiles. The very act of handing out the tickets, even if they go straight in the bin, means you just add them on to the attendance.

 

I think this year they're probably doing just that - Not giving them out to punters so they don't lose revenue, but at the same time leaving a pile of 9,000 of them in a box somewhere that is accessible but nobody will ever find, and then claiming that as those tickets are potentially in circulation then they can just whack that number onto their "crowd" for the day. :lol:

 

Surely with the current state of their finances they would be looking to reduce the official attendance figures

They would pay less tax on a 20,000 crowd than 25,000 due to the reduced turnover

 

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9,000 free tickets a match has to be bollocks surely like.

 

It isn't. I posted something about that on here last year. My cousin who worked in the Commercial department at SAFC at the time told me that.

 

The genius of it is you don't even need to then get those people through the turnstiles. The very act of handing out the tickets, even if they go straight in the bin, means you just add them on to the attendance.

 

I think this year they're probably doing just that - Not giving them out to punters so they don't lose revenue, but at the same time leaving a pile of 9,000 of them in a box somewhere that is accessible but nobody will ever find, and then claiming that as those tickets are potentially in circulation then they can just whack that number onto their "crowd" for the day. :lol:

 

Surely with the current state of their finances they would be looking to reduce the official attendance figures

They would pay less tax on a 20,000 crowd than 25,000 due to the reduced turnover

 

 

Can you explain how much tax they'd pay on a ticket they'd given out for free?

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9,000 free tickets a match has to be bollocks surely like.

 

It isn't. I posted something about that on here last year. My cousin who worked in the Commercial department at SAFC at the time told me that.

 

The genius of it is you don't even need to then get those people through the turnstiles. The very act of handing out the tickets, even if they go straight in the bin, means you just add them on to the attendance.

 

I think this year they're probably doing just that - Not giving them out to punters so they don't lose revenue, but at the same time leaving a pile of 9,000 of them in a box somewhere that is accessible but nobody will ever find, and then claiming that as those tickets are potentially in circulation then they can just whack that number onto their "crowd" for the day. :lol:

 

Surely with the current state of their finances they would be looking to reduce the official attendance figures

They would pay less tax on a 20,000 crowd than 25,000 due to the reduced turnover

 

 

Whatever they report attendance as has no effect on turnover.

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9,000 free tickets a match has to be bollocks surely like.

 

It isn't. I posted something about that on here last year. My cousin who worked in the Commercial department at SAFC at the time told me that.

 

The genius of it is you don't even need to then get those people through the turnstiles. The very act of handing out the tickets, even if they go straight in the bin, means you just add them on to the attendance.

 

I think this year they're probably doing just that - Not giving them out to punters so they don't lose revenue, but at the same time leaving a pile of 9,000 of them in a box somewhere that is accessible but nobody will ever find, and then claiming that as those tickets are potentially in circulation then they can just whack that number onto their "crowd" for the day. :lol:

 

Surely with the current state of their finances they would be looking to reduce the official attendance figures

They would pay less tax on a 20,000 crowd than 25,000 due to the reduced turnover

 

 

Whatever they report attendance as has no effect on turnover.

Indeed, they could claim 100,000 and when challenged by HMRC would just need to demonstrate they give 99,000 away

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I really hope our U23s do get them in that cup and beat their first team just so the old, "Newcastle and Newcastle reserves" joke was proven true.

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9,000 free tickets a match has to be bollocks surely like.

 

It isn't. I posted something about that on here last year. My cousin who worked in the Commercial department at SAFC at the time told me that.

 

The genius of it is you don't even need to then get those people through the turnstiles. The very act of handing out the tickets, even if they go straight in the bin, means you just add them on to the attendance.

 

I think this year they're probably doing just that - Not giving them out to punters so they don't lose revenue, but at the same time leaving a pile of 9,000 of them in a box somewhere that is accessible but nobody will ever find, and then claiming that as those tickets are potentially in circulation then they can just whack that number onto their "crowd" for the day. :lol:

 

Surely with the current state of their finances they would be looking to reduce the official attendance figures

They would pay less tax on a 20,000 crowd than 25,000 due to the reduced turnover

 

 

I'm led to believe that HMRC are only interested in the actual receipts and not the crowd figure.

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That's probably the most extreme example of Hate Newcastle> Love Sunderland that I've ever heard of like. Are you absolutely sure that that's what they mean? That's utterly mental.

 

Yep, we talked about it specifically. Not that they're in any way linked obviously, but he was sure he would take that scenario.

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I really hope our U23s do get them in that cup and beat their first team just so the old, "Newcastle and Newcastle reserves" joke was proven true.

 

Our U23s would struggle to beat an egg like, fucking hopeless :lol:

 

Utter humiliation when we beat them 3-0 then. These fuckers won’t be able to win an argument in League One if uncle Ellis is still at the helm ???

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I'd happily have them win 5 nowt if it meant them suffering the ignominy of playing our stiffs in a competitive fixture. On the plus side for Beardsley, he would be able to join in with their fans racist shenanigans.

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Don't really understand anyone saying they're doomed or will be if they lose game x and another team wins game y.

 

I know they're shite but they're currently just 3 points adrift with 14 games remaining.  You couldn't even count them out in that situation with a handful of games left.  A team down there just picking up 2 or 3 wins can completely change the picture.

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Don't really understand anyone saying they're doomed or will be if they lose game x and another team wins game y.

 

I know they're shite but they're currently just 3 points adrift with 14 games remaining.  You couldn't even count them out in that situation with a handful of games left.  A team down there just picking up 2 or 3 wins can completely change the picture.

Think your last sentence nails the crux of their problem tbh.
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Don't really understand anyone saying they're doomed or will be if they lose game x and another team wins game y.

 

I know they're shite but they're currently just 3 points adrift with 14 games remaining.  You couldn't even count them out in that situation with a handful of games left.  A team down there just picking up 2 or 3 wins can completely change the picture.

Think your last sentence nails the crux of their problem tbh.

 

Knew someone would say that but you hear the same thing every single year about teams at the bottom, then plenty of teams do pick up a few wins to pull themselves out of the mess they're in, then those same people seem to forget it happens regularly.

 

If they were 8-10 points adrift at this stage I'd agree they were fucked, as it stands they've still got a decent chance of staying up.

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