TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I just can't shake the doubt about what happens after promotion, will we back Rafa enough to realise the potential he gives us? I'll enjoy it for now of course, but Big Mike is always looming in the background. I think Ashley will stick to the original plan of the club being self-funding, which means Rafa will get all the available profits to spend as he sees fit. Should be a dramatic improvement on chancers like Pardew being handed players he hasn't got a clue how to use with no discernible long term plan in place. I agree. Ashley doesn't want to be hands on, for him Rafa is basically the manager he's always wanted. An obsessive who will run the club from top to bottom and leave him to get on with his main business which is Sports Direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Isn't he the exact opposite type of manager Mike has wanted? He wanted to build a system above the manager that would do the bulk of the work and have a manager come in who would basically just coach the players and pick the team. The aim being that he could be easily replaced (their words). Getting Rafa in and giving him pretty much full control is basically the death of his old system, although from a financial standpoint it'll probably run the same way. We saw instant changes with signing 30+ aged players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Ashley wanted someone he trusted and he didn't trust a lot of football people including KK for whatever reason. If he trusts Rafa, then good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's a fairly massive change of approach, have to hope it's for good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Isn't he the exact opposite type of manager Mike has wanted? He wanted to build a system above the manager that would do the bulk of the work and have a manager come in who would basically just coach the players and pick the team. The aim being that he could be easily replaced (their words). Getting Rafa in and giving him pretty much full control is basically the death of his old system, although from a financial standpoint it'll probably run the same way. We saw instant changes with signing 30+ aged players. Yeah, Ashley has changed pretty dramatically since we went downhill under Pardew and Carver. He did come out and say that things would be different but then he tried to do it on the cheap with McClaren. Relegation has probably finally made him see it's a false economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 We're quite lucky the Sky money has gone through the roof as well... should be pretty easy to run the club using its own money. And that other European leagues haven't really kept up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Ashley is an absolute cunt and should be shot, but he did give that idiot McClaren money (or the TV money did) so I don't see why he wouldn't do the same with Benitez. Over the last two years we have spent a lot of money and wasted it on garbage I don't consider that an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 In Tynemouth village now enjoying a sneaky cider and bacon buttie in Ora. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Not that sneaky obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161019/07b537057d0af916a00207d5686dc611.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 The irony is, the model he has aspired to build probably works in a round about way with Rafa. He identifies players who offer value for money, and at some point they will still be sold because they're either surplus to requirements or want to move on to bigger and better things. Difference being the players have an opportunity to improve under a world class coach and become more valuable, and the club is sold to them on the basis that the club wanrs them and not purely as a stepping stone. Cold hard relaity is that if we end up with players becoming world beaters they will likely want that big move, or perhaps we end with a degree of success as a result of said players. The model will largely remain, but the structure is different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why on earth he'd have a bacon sandwich in Ora instead of sampling the tapas menu is beyond me. #RafaOut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I wonder if he'll offer Anita and Gouffran new deals? I'm not sure about Anita, but I don't think I'd keep him on. Gouffran can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I wonder if he'll offer Anita and Gouffran new deals? I'm not sure about Anita, but I don't think I'd keep him on. Gouffran can go. I'd be very surprised if the squad bears much resemblance to this one if we get promoted. I suppose some of them might end up as reserves rather than in the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think he'll resign Anita for another two years. Gouffran will probably be phased out of the team as the season goes on and will be released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think Anita will get a deal, he was good at RB at the end of last season and he seems no bother, just gets on with what he's asked. In hindsight the stick we gave him was outrageous, as poor of a CM as he is. That's what Pardew does to you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think he'll resign Anita for another two years. Gouffran will probably be phased out of the team as the season goes on and will be released. I think so, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 In Tynemouth village now enjoying a sneaky cider and bacon buttie in Ora. Who cares what you're upto, this is a thread about Rafa. Get your own thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'm not too keen on his tactics or how he sees the game should be played, but Rafa Benitez is the fucking man and has transformed this football club totally and deserves every single person who loves NUFC or who has them in their heart to be behind him 100% no matter what! He's another KK or another Sir Bobby to me and I won't forget wor Chrissy Hughton either in all of this. Again, he is the man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I'm not too keen on his tactics or how he sees the game should be played, but Rafa Benitez is the f***ing man and has transformed this football club totally and deserves every single person who loves NUFC or who has them in their heart to be behind him 100% no matter what! He's another KK or another Sir Bobby to me and I won't forget wor Chrissy Hughton either in all of this. Again, he is the man! I haven't a problem with his tactics or how he feels the game should be played .... But I agree 100 ℅ with you I trust him 1000000 ℅ I fucking adore the man tbh the way I feel now about football and the way I feel about Newcastle has changed so much ... I haven't been this excited about football since I was 13.... I love him ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 In hindsight the stick we gave him was outrageous, as poor of a CM as he is. He got away with a lot at CM. Consistently pap for what.. 3 years? "Play as the deep lying midfielder". SMC does it - he's still pap. A tidy rb aye and i'd like to keep him and Yedlin for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-brought-respect-back-12039206 What a man! Asked on Monday whether he missed the bright lights of the Champions League or Premier League, he looked back almost confused. “I am concentrating on games and that’s it. I decided to stay for the fans and the club, to stay in England and manage a team in the way you want to manage,” he said. “I’m not thinking about what isn’t here. It’s a sunny day outside, I’m coaching a team the way I want to coach it. That’s it. In the end, it’s XI versus XI and we’ve got 52,000 fans coming to our games - it’s not bad.” That is a genuinely brilliant quote which deserves more love in the media and the football public. In this era of rampant commercialism in football, where every player every manager wants to jump to the next step - higher wages at the first available opportunity - that quote is a throwback to the simpler times, reminding us all why we love this game and our respective clubs. By the way Rafa's teams really click into fifth gear and go on full on crushing machine mode in the second half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Somebody turn the fucking pap tap off pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-brought-respect-back-12039206 What a man! Asked on Monday whether he missed the bright lights of the Champions League or Premier League, he looked back almost confused. “I am concentrating on games and that’s it. I decided to stay for the fans and the club, to stay in England and manage a team in the way you want to manage,” he said. “I’m not thinking about what isn’t here. It’s a sunny day outside, I’m coaching a team the way I want to coach it. That’s it. In the end, it’s XI versus XI and we’ve got 52,000 fans coming to our games - it’s not bad.” That is a genuinely brilliant quote which deserves more love in the media and the football public. In this era of rampant commercialism in football, where every player every manager wants to jump to the next step - higher wages at the first available opportunity - that quote is a throwback to the simpler times, reminding us all why we love this game and our respective clubs. By the way Rafa's teams really click into fifth gear and go on full on crushing machine mode in the second half of the season. Quoted for truth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161019/07b537057d0af916a00207d5686dc611.jpg I doubt anyone has forgotten, but league record under McLaren in 15/16 Newcastle United P28 W6 D6 L16 F28 A53 Pts 24 When Rafa took over, our recent form was P6 W1 D0 L5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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