Parky Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 How are the PL payments allocated this season. Is it a lump sum or chunks through the season? That's the key to all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I think the main problem that I have here is that even if Rafa's given what he wants and he shows them what investment can do, they'll still never, ever, ever learn from it. My feeling is that Rafa would pretty much have to get us Champions League football from a completely normal budget in order to prove that money needs to be spent. Look at last season, we now know that Rafa had to fight tooth and nail to get them to sign Ritchie. I don't think anyone would argue that without Ritchie we wouldn't have been promoted last season - and yet here we are, Rafa fought for transfers in the summer, didn't get them in January, he still got us promoted - largely because of one of the signings he fought for - and we've signed one new player for just under £8m. It's the 17th July. They're absolutely pathetic, dealing with these people must be an absolute nightmare for anyone with an ounce of integrity. Completely missed this story. What was it? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-reveals-how-persuaded-12892366 Speaking about his pursuit of the player, Benitez told the Chronicle: “Lee Charnley was phoning me to say the ‘price is that’ and we were not expecting that. “I was saying ‘please, he is an important player, he has experience, we have to do it we cannot be worrying about a couple of million when we are in this position where we have to get out of this division.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Every positive they do is done with a chinese burn from someone with good intentions; fans, coaches, protests. Never significantly off their own back. Fucking sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I will say like, even by Ashley's low standards, this window has been a shitshow so far. Literally f*** all appears to be happening, and the player's we're being linked to don't appear to be those "proven" players we drastically need. We went 18 months without making a permanent signing when Pardew was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm in no doubt we will bring the players in to fill the positions Rafa wants fill. I also think because of past experience there's a lot of putting two and two together and coming up with 5. Rafa is a pragmatic type of guy. We're newly promoted, do have some money to spend but the target this year is to consolidate. He will know our limitations for this year. The problem will come once we don't meet his ambitions to improve. Rafa will of course be trying to get the most money he can so will be playing the game cannily. I might just be being blindly optimistic but Rafa always talks about the project. No way were we going to blow our stack on having a go this year..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm in no doubt we will bring the players in to fill the positions Rafa wants fill. I also think because of past experience there's a lot of putting two and two together and coming up with 5. Rafa is a pragmatic type of guy. We're newly promoted, do have some money to spend but the target this year is to consolidate. He will know our limitations for this year. The problem will come once we don't meet his ambitions to improve. Rafa will of course be trying to get the most money he can so will be playing the game cannily. I might just be being blindly optimistic but Rafa always talks about the project. No way were we going to blow our stack on having a go this year..... It's not "blowing our stack". It's spending the TV money on much needed players. It's not like he's having to spend his own money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Early indications that this may just have worked. Within a few hours we've loaned one out, got another out of the club altogether and look to have just about wrapped up another signing, given he already wants to join us. Movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 As the Liverpool lads say, we have to get used to Rafa's politics. He seemed in good fettle by all accounts today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Early indications that this may just have worked. Within a few hours we've loaned one out, got another out of the club altogether and look to have just about wrapped up another signing, given he already wants to join us. Movement. Don't think the two are linked. Just a handy coincidence, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Early indications that this may just have worked. Within a few hours we've loaned one out, got another out of the club altogether and look to have just about wrapped up another signing, given he already wants to join us. Movement. I doubt it made any difference to this deal, hopefully will make the others happen faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Early indications that this may just have worked. Within a few hours we've loaned one out, got another out of the club altogether and look to have just about wrapped up another signing, given he already wants to join us. Movement. Don't think the two are linked. Just a handy coincidence, I reckon. Maybe? We'll probably never know really. Just pleased things are finally moving and getting done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm really afraid that any hopes of having a long term Rafa project are vanishing. Even if he eventually gets his way, I don't think he'll have the stomach to deal with these insufferable pricks every transfer window. It's just not worth the headache. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 We'll only really know if Rafa is getting his way with a big signing. Jacob is a start but tbh it's in line with the Ashley policy anyway, young player, not a massive fee and potential sell-on bonanza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm really afraid that any hopes of having a long term Rafa project are vanishing. Even if he eventually gets his way, I don't think he'll have the stomach to deal with these insufferable pricks every transfer window. It's just not worth the headache. According to Liverpool fans, this sort of stuff is common place with Rafa. I'm sure he's had tougher bosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 He famously walked after disagreeing with Valencia's transfer policy "I asked for a sofa and they brought me a lamp", I'm just afraid he will eventually realize it's not worth aggravating an ulcer just to get transfers done every window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Press and hold panic button! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 He famously walked after disagreeing with Valencia's transfer policy "I asked for a sofa and they brought me a lamp", I'm just afraid he will eventually realize it's not worth aggravating an ulcer just to get transfers done every window. Will inevitably be a clash of two big ego's with one winner. Our only hope of Rafa staying long term is a change of ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Was this posted? He seems fine tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Was this posted? He seems fine tbh That's what the mad panic was about? Honestly the agendas of some on here are ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Agreed, it's totally normal for a manager to literally have to say in public "hopefully the owner can keep his word" as a part of normal conversation. nowt to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Was this posted? He seems fine tbh That's what the mad panic was about? Honestly the agendas of some on here are ludicrous. Not really, there would be absolutely no need for Rafa to mention Ashley if he was perfectly happy, it was a tactical move from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Was this posted? He seems fine tbh need one of them micro expression experts- probably have a field day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Was this posted? He seems fine tbh That's what the mad panic was about? Honestly the agendas of some on here are ludicrous. Not really, there would be absolutely no need for Rafa to mention Ashley if he was perfectly happy, it was a tactical move from him. It's a slight nudge not a resignation letter. The reaction on here was like it was the end of the world. It's like a cult around here, let's see who can be the most grief stricken and who hates everything the most. Can see a few people not making it through this summer, razor blades at the ready, cut down people not across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 This club is fucking aids. Can't really fault Fat Mike for trying to destroy it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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