themanupstairs Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Dare I say that if an admittedly awful tackle at the JJB causing no physical injury ruined him mentally, there was f*** all to ruin in the first place. He has some ability but he's never in a billion years a PL defender. Another stupid Carr signing. Agreed. The initial scare will have done enough damage unfortunately and he doesn't seem a good fit for this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Dare I say that if an admittedly awful tackle at the JJB/DW causing no physical injury ruined him mentally, there was fuck all to ruin in the first place. He has some ability but he's never in a billion years a PL defender. Another stupid Carr signing. Would have to agree. Reasonable signing in theory; as in we needed a left-back because Santon was never gonna cut it and Haidara might've developed into something decent. But it was ultimately one of countless bad calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. This. Physically there was clearly no lasting damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Play on his mind years later? Shut the fuck up, man. He's a professional athlete in a contact sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Play on his mind years later? Shut the f*** up, man. He's a professional athlete in a contact sport. Not necessarily that specific incident. But it will have started a cascading effect to etch away at his confidence little by little and his game and fitness will have suffered as a result. You might want to think professional athletes are homogenous robots, but I work with them, especially athletes recovering from injury and you would be surprised at the impact some injuries can have on some personalities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. It is strange like, one of Carr's signings having a heart the size of a pea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He's been told to move on anyway, it's all immaterial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. Think he came off the bench in that game but agree with your point. It was relatively early in the first half was it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He wasn't injured, though. There isn't a professional footballer, especially a wide player, on the planet who hasn't been shook up by a bad tackle at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He wasn't injured, though. There isn't a professional footballer, especially a wide player, on the planet who hasn't been shook up by a bad tackle at some point. You're right then. He clearly used the incident to fleece the club out of a salary pretending to be a footballer and all that. It was an injury. It just wasn't anywhere as serious as first feared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. Think he came off the bench in that game but agree with your point. It was relatively early in the first half was it not? Yeh I think my memory is failing me as now I recall John Charver going ape shit at half time and getting sent off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He wasn't injured, though. There isn't a professional footballer, especially a wide player, on the planet who hasn't been shook up by a bad tackle at some point. He was injured iirc, sure it was tissue damage and bruising to the bone so was out for around a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It was his first Premier League start, he was a bairn still, had probably been told to expect a more physical game, then had some thug almost snap his leg. I could see why that would play on the mind like. Think he came off the bench in that game but agree with your point. It was relatively early in the first half was it not? Yeh I think my memory is failing me as now I recall John Charver going ape s*** at half time and getting sent off. Oh no it isn't! Came on in the 13th minute for Debuchy: http://www.nufc.com/html/2012-13html/2013-03-17wigan-a.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Aye, just seen that. I remember it was first-half so assumed it was him starting. He was subbed on 27 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I have no idea whether he would have been good or not, but it's very stupid to suggest that it didn't have a physical and mental impact. It would on anyone, physical for obvious reasons and mental because he needs to trust himself again and some players simply never learn to trust in their body after injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Play on his mind years later? Shut the fuck up, man. He's a professional athlete in a contact sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He's just not good enough, even if he were, he picks up too many injuries for it to matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He's always had a really good attitude and bummed for him as you'd like to see guys like him succeed. Shame about how his career went here and the million injuries. Hopefully he can get some joy playing back in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He wasn't injured, though. There isn't a professional footballer, especially a wide player, on the planet who hasn't been shook up by a bad tackle at some point. You're right then. He clearly used the incident to fleece the club out of a salary pretending to be a footballer and all that. I didn't suggest anything of the sort. He was just one of many hit and hope Carr signings for peanuts that didn't work. To attribute it to a tackle is stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Play on his mind years later? Shut the fuck up, man. He's a professional athlete in a contact sport. Traumatic events affect people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I actually thought he would be good at first. He was a big strong lad with pace and seemed to have decent defensive instincts. The main things that let him down were his crossing and long passing (which he had to do quite a lot under Pardew). Unfortunately injuroes have completely ruined him, i hope he can get his career back on track at a lower level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He's going to the French Newcastle imo, great move for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Lucas Perez and Danny Ings in the shit rag sun. Probably nowt in it. But would certainly be interested in Perez. Thought he looked half decent for Arsenal and got a few goals for them, despite not playing much. Ings would be a bit of a gamble. No idea what he'll be like after his injury, or whether he would consistently score goals at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Completely forgot Danny Ings existed. Can't have played for 2 seasons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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