Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Scott Parker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Jack Wilshere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: David Beckham Did David Beckham really score 18 Premier League free kicks. I can’t find the stats anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, toon25 said: Just having this debate with a mate: who's the most overrated player in your lifetime... Appreciate this is dependent on number of factors. Depends on how you define overrated. If you are thinking overrated the top end of the pool, look at the Balon d'or winners around 1996 to 2002, one name stands out: Ronaldo, Zidane, Rivaldo, Figo, Owen, Ronaldo. Don't get me wrong, he was a brilliant striker for us and one of the most exciting 18 year old I have seen playing for us. But the Balon d'or? Especially since his single season goalscoring statistics have been comfortably eclipsed at LFC itself by Torres, Suarez, Salah and maybe Jota this season. At the other end, Alex Oxlade Chamberlain. I have seen him play for 4-5 years and I still have no clue what his best position is? Yet to see a game where he dominates and leaves the mark. He is a nice guy and puts out really good social media content. But other than that, not sure what the fuss , whatever little he had, is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I think Beckham is actually underated as a footballer. You dont get 115 caps for England for nowt. Rarely ever mentioned as one of the best midfielders to play in the league, doesn't get half the adulation as a footballer as Keane or inexplicably Scholes gets for that Man Utd team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: I think Beckham is actually underated as a footballer. You dont get 115 caps for England for nowt. Rarely ever mentioned as one of the best midfielders to play in the league, doesn't get half the adulation as a footballer as Keane or inexplicably Scholes gets for that Man Utd team. He got 115 England caps because Sven was in love with him and picked him regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: I think Beckham is actually underated as a footballer. You dont get 115 caps for England for nowt. Rarely ever mentioned as one of the best midfielders to play in the league, doesn't get half the adulation as a footballer as Keane or inexplicably Scholes gets for that Man Utd team. His celebrity profile was out of whack with his footballer profile but he was a genuinely great footballer. He was a two or three trick pony but he did those three tricks at a level only few footballers in history could. He is one of the all-time PL greats as a right midfielder. Worked hard, helped his fullback in defense and give him an inch and he could put a cross on a dime for the strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: He got 115 England caps because Sven was in love with him and picked him regardless Capello picked him loads even deeper in his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: Capello picked him loads even deeper in his career. Both where wrong to do so imo, don’t get me wrong, it’s been a massive issue throughout all England squads including the latest where players aren’t picked on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Both where wrong to do so imo, don’t get me wrong, it’s been a massive issue throughout all England squads including the latest where players aren’t picked on form. Tell me the other options available to him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: Tell me the other options available to him? To capello ? Or the current England squad ? Edited March 21, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: To capello ? Or the current England squad ? To Beckham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, neesy111 said: To Beckham? Off the top of my head I can’t remember the squads from that far back, but the point I’m making is he was rarely picked on form. Best example being the 2002 World Cup squad when he wasn’t fully fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: Depends on how you define overrated. If you are thinking overrated the top end of the pool, look at the Balon d'or winners around 1996 to 2002, one name stands out: Ronaldo, Zidane, Rivaldo, Figo, Owen, Ronaldo. Don't get me wrong, he was a brilliant striker for us and one of the most exciting 18 year old I have seen playing for us. But the Balon d'or? Especially since his single season goalscoring statistics have been comfortably eclipsed at LFC itself by Torres, Suarez, Salah and maybe Jota this season. At the other end, Alex Oxlade Chamberlain. I have seen him play for 4-5 years and I still have no clue what his best position is? Yet to see a game where he dominates and leaves the mark. He is a nice guy and puts out really good social media content. But other than that, not sure what the fuss , whatever little he had, is. Glad someone else agrees about Oxlade Chamberlain. Nothing player for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 What? The ox is a good player, that injury ruined him as he was in great form before it. England would've won the 2018 SF Vs Croatia with him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Don't think there was many wingers around through the 00s which could've rightly usurped Beckham. Wright-Phillips, Milner, Lennon, Downing are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. McManaman, Redknapp, Anderton going further back. Pretty sure the likes of Barmby and Trevor Sinclair were in the side in the early noughties. So Beckham easily stands out imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Aye pre-injury I’m his first Liverpool city he was brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, toon25 said: Just having this debate with a mate: who's the most overrated player in your lifetime... Appreciate this is dependent on number of factors. Roberto Carlos. Edited March 21, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Never got the Cantona hype. Not saying he was shit, he was very good but the hype has always seemed disproportionate to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I absolutely hated Ruud van Nistelrooy. He was a brilliant goalscorer and always in the right place but he must have been the worst pure footballer to be granted the superstar status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Sima said: Roberto Carlos. Reputation built on one free kick. very very good full back but not as good as his legend is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, midds said: Never got the Cantona hype. Not saying he was shit, he was very good but the hype has always seemed disproportionate to me. was the first name that came to mind, but my dislike of him clouds the judgement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Two names that came up: Del Piero and Totti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, toon25 said: Two names that came up: Del Piero and Totti. You must hate football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Klose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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