The Prophet Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I never got the Ribery hype. Fantastic on his day, but he definetly had consistency issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 From a newcastle player point of view Cabaye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Strange how people say Maguire and Pickford perform well for England, when 90% of the time they are playing against pub sides. As have all of the other England players in those matches. They've also performed consistently against the best teams in major tournaments. Scoring goals, defending well, making saves, and performing in shootouts. Maguire's a laughing stock at Man United and Pickford's been a liability in the past for Everton, but up until now they've been completely different players as soon as they put on an England shirt. Edited March 22, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Ribery probably deserved the ballon d'Or when Bayern won the treble. Think him and Robben are a bit underrated due to playing in the Messi and Ronaldo prime era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Robben was an incredible player in his prime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Doctor Zaius said: I think Beckham is actually underated as a footballer. You dont get 115 caps for England for nowt. Rarely ever mentioned as one of the best midfielders to play in the league, doesn't get half the adulation as a footballer as Keane or inexplicably Scholes gets for that Man Utd team. There's a reason. Beckham isn't even close to Keane or Scholes, like not even remotely close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Robben was a far better player than Ribery. As good as anyone bar Messi and Ronaldo for a long time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, triggs said: Robben was a far better player than Ribery. As good as anyone bar Messi and Ronaldo for a long time I hated Robben but he's one of the best players I've ever watched. Everyone knew exactly what he was going to do, but couldn't do much about it. His volley against us still makes me sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, jack j said: From a newcastle player point of view Cabaye Agree. He rarely dominated matches apart from his last season when he was playing for a move (he was class during that period). He had the Halo effect on a lot of people. (Not just by his 'good looks' but also for being a 'flair' player type). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Didier Drogba. People talk about him as though he's in the same class as someone like Shearer or Batistuta. Yeah, Chelsea would never have won the CL without him, but overall his game was nothing memorable. Well done to him, and his team-mates, for stopping a war, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 With Drogba it wasn’t about his goal numbers, it was about his presence for that team and what it meant to them and just as importantly the opposition, in that sense he was an absolute giant of a player and kind of redefined the old CF role which with the old guard with the likes of Shearer was dying out. In many ways I’d say he was underrated myself. I can see why some didn’t rate him mind, another marmite type player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, Froggy said: There's a reason. Beckham isn't even close to Keane or Scholes, like not even remotely close. He did have that Keane effect on England as a leader, but with superior passing. It’s harsh to even compare him to Scholes, however, who for me is arguably the most talented of England payers I’ve seen alongside Gazza, but more all-round and of course a proper professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 hours ago, kingxlnc said: I think John Obi Mikel was overrated, never understood the hype. Inexplicably only 34 years old right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I think Keane is over rated. Very much a premier league legend. But would he have been so successful abroad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: People where arguing Beckham on 115 caps meant he wasn’t overrated, and really I’m also talking generally as well. Getting an international cap is not difficult these days. Look at some of the qualifying groups England have had over the last few years, we literally play pub teams the majority of the time. I always thought Beckham was overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I will say, looking from outside, you overrated Lascelles for a while and now you’re overrating Burn in a very similar way. That’s just natural fan stuff though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I think Keane is over rated. Very much a premier league legend. But would he have been so successful abroad? he did win the Champions League and played in a World Cup that should have been two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, leffe186 said: I will say, looking from outside, you overrated Lascelles for a while and now you’re overrating Burn in a very similar way. That’s just natural fan stuff though. I can honestly say I never rated Lascelles, never mind over rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Astroblack said: he did win the Champions League and played in a World Cup that should have been two. That midfield was rated as arguably the best in Europe for at least 3 years. Beckham, Scholes, Keane, Giggs. 1 Champions League final. 1 semi final. Over 6 years. Ability-wise he wasn't in that top bracket. In Europe when less aggression was allowed they couldn't dominate midfields. Keane didn't have that ability. Could he have gone to Serie A or La Liga and performed? Yaya Toure was a better footballer. Also that Invincible team were a little under-rated. IMO if the refereeing was better and protected players more they would've defended the league title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, leffe186 said: I will say, looking from outside, you overrated Lascelles for a while and now you’re overrating Burn in a very similar way. That’s just natural fan stuff though. Usually goes tits up when people start shouting for them to get an England call up I'd rather we had no players playing for England tbh and fresh and ready for us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, McCormick said: I think another consideration to be taken into account is whether those players could thrive in “modern” playing styles. I imagine a good few former Ballon D’or nominees would struggle under high-energy/ pressing systems. The other way of looking at it, is how much better those players could have been with today’s training, techniques, diets, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Astroblack said: he did win the Champions League and played in a World Cup that should have been two. I hate him but we also had no right to qualify from that group for the 02 World Cup with class Portugal and Netherlands teams and he was the driving force behind that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Edgar Davids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Kessie to Barca more or less done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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