Other clubs' transfers

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, KingArthur said:

Ok, let me remind you that I am writing with my 3rd language here, so something might be lost in translation.

 

My point is: For all the nice football and building from the back that Brighton do with a limited squad, they do not score or threaten enough. That may well be because of players like Undav and Wellbeck, but the point still stands. For example they bossed the first half against us in US-preseason and completely bossed us at Amex last season. Even at SJP they played nicely past our press till the last third. 

And may I please ask you to try and behave, this is a forum about football and we have different opinions about it. It is not like yours is the one and only truth. We just see the game differently.

They literally scored the 4th most in the league and had the 3rd highest Xg in the league. Across 38 league games and a run to the FA Cup semi final. Not 2 league games and pre season. Your first and fundamental point is simply not true. 
 

Yes if they had better quality attackers they would score more goals. As would every other team in the league. Considering the players they actually have - scoring the 4th most goals and 3rd for Xg is a sign of a great attacking team.  

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, Mountain said:

 

 

Defensively great?

 

 

maguire is a sound defender. He’s not top 6 quality but he’s definitely capable for the likes of West Ham. 

[Rich]

Imagine thinking like Will.

[The College Dropout]

8 minutes ago, Froggy said:

We've agreed personal terms with Todibo but apparently fee could be too high and we'll move to Pavard.

 

Could actually see Pavard coming in and winning the right back position from Dalot/AWB. 

I’ve never seen Todibo play but was great on FM.  

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, Mountain said:

Defensively great?

 

Yes. We were talking about set pieces. 

 

There's few as good as as Maguire in the league from defensive set pieces. He has many weaknesses but that certainly isn't one of them. 

 

Offensively though, from set pieces, he is poor. 

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

I’ve never seen Todibo play but was great on FM. 

 

I haven't either but I'm sure he's an upgrade on Maguire.

[Tiresias]

7 minutes ago, Rich said:

Imagine thinking like Will.

 

Yes, Brighton, the bad guys holding players hostage by reliably selling them to willing buyers, christ what a dumb fuck

[Elric]

3 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

 

Yes, Brighton, the bad guys holding players hostage by reliably selling them to willing buyers, christ what a dumb fuck

 

Just looked on his profile, guy is a Chelsea fan, checks out ?

 

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Elric

[The Prophet]

Absolutely pathetic from Brentford.

[Menace]

13 minutes ago, Rich said:

Imagine thinking like Will.

Check who he supports 

[SEMTEX]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

Absolutely pathetic from Brentford.

 

Be class if Brentford get him to sign his extended contract and then just renege on the Arsenal deal.

[Nobody]

That transfer seems to be bad for all parties involved

[The Butcher]

Be amazed it there's not a Chris Wood-style obligation clause in there.

[gbandit]

I don’t understand that transfer on any level other than Arsenal wanting to avoid FFP. Why are they spending so much on a backup keeper? Why are Brentford letting him go for such a low loan fee? It’s not far off what we got for Dubravka

[duo]

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I don’t understand that transfer on any level other than Arsenal wanting to avoid FFP. Why are they spending so much on a backup keeper? Why are Brentford letting him go for such a low loan fee? It’s not far off what we got for Dubravka

I am amazed Brentford agreed to it. Don't they need the finds to purchase a new keeper?

[Abacus]

10 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I don’t understand that transfer on any level other than Arsenal wanting to avoid FFP. Why are they spending so much on a backup keeper? Why are Brentford letting him go for such a low loan fee? It’s not far off what we got for Dubravka

 

The pundits on Sky Sports were just waffling on about how it was a great deal for everyone on the grounds that they extended Raya's contract with Brentford for a year at the same time as signing it. 

 

I.e. if Arsenal don't take up the option and pay the £27m at the end of the loan, Raya goes back to Brentford with a year still on his contract and can attract a fee from someone else. So Brentford don't lose out.

 

One after the other copied each other saying the same thing.

 

Even when asked why Arsenal just didn't buy him outright, they said it again except adding that it would give Arsenal the chance to see if they wanted him.

 

Not one mentioned the likely real reason - as you say it's obviously been structured that way for FFP purposes given how much Arsenal have spent already. Though, maybe it's hardly surprising that pundits seem to have less of a clue about the restrictions of FFP than the average Newcastle fan.

[Jaqen]

18 minutes ago, duo said:

I am amazed Brentford agreed to it. Don't they need the finds to purchase a new keeper?

 

Already got one haven't they? Been playing ahead of Raya preseason. 

[cubaricho]

30 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I don’t understand that transfer on any level other than Arsenal wanting to avoid FFP. Why are they spending so much on a backup keeper? Why are Brentford letting him go for such a low loan fee? It’s not far off what we got for Dubravka

Surely he starts over Ramsdale? He’s a better keeper for sure. 

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

Surely he starts over Ramsdale? He’s a better keeper for sure. 

Haven’t watched them both enough to comment but I’d say they’re both first choice keepers rather than back up keepers for top 12 teams in the premier league 

[cubaricho]

Just now, gbandit said:

Haven’t watched them both enough to comment but I’d say they’re both first choice keepers rather than back up keepers for top 12 teams in the premier league 

Now that Chelsea have replaced Kepa, Ramsdale is comfortably the worst keeper for one of the top teams. 

[SEMTEX]

I would imagine the writing is on the wall for Ramsdale. Doubt it'll be an immediate transition though.

[gbandit]

Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t remember thinking Ramsdale looked poor last season. What’s the issue with his game? Positional play?

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

11 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Surely he starts over Ramsdale? He’s a better keeper for sure. 

 

Ramsdale's just got a new contract and much better wages. Weird transfer to me, unless Arteta plans to rotate keepers.

[Shearergol]

13 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Now that Chelsea have replaced Kepa, Ramsdale is comfortably the worst keeper for one of the top teams. 

Eh? He was decent last season. Prick, but decent.

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

They literally scored the 4th most in the league and had the 3rd highest Xg in the league. Across 38 league games and a run to the FA Cup semi final. Not 2 league games and pre season. Your first and fundamental point is simply not true. 
 

Yes if they had better quality attackers they would score more goals. As would every other team in the league. Considering the players they actually have - scoring the 4th most goals and 3rd for Xg is a sign of a great attacking team.  

It is pretty much pointless if you win 5-1 or 2-1. They could not score in important games like Fa Cup Semi or against us despite pretty big control. That is difference to top clubs. And your point about Potter's Brighton not scoring seems not true also if you look last season. They failed to score in 1 of 6 games under him in EPL last season, scoring 5 in his last. 

They do score a lot, but sometimes their play seems like nice but not very dangerous. It was clear at SJP last season for example. But what do I know.

But like I said, lets discuss this during the season and while analysing their games. It is pretty stupid conversation to have if your point of view is that everyone else is wrong.