Froggy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Stifler said: No he wasn’t. He had a good World Cup campaign, but most people realised that he was just in his best form and that he was good for Leicester, but prone to errors. Pundits and fans warned Man Utd not to go near him as he was overrated in the media. Nah. Paul Merson was one of the only pundits I can remember that criticised him at the time and he was ridiculed for it. Opposition fans felt he was overrated, which is far enough, but there was a serious lack of quality defenders at the time. People forget City were after Maguire as well, but were smart enough to pull out when the fee was quoted. We were just desperate. The general consensus at the time was that he would make us far better, which he did to be fair. Our defence was in a torrid state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Solitude20 said: I think you too are misunderstanding my point, or perhaps we are talking about different points of view. It’s been said in the past view pages here and in other platforms that those deals are killing the game. It’s been portrayed as something out of the ordinary. My reply was against those claims since nobody raised those points 12 months ago or when Maguire or Lukaku deals took place. I am not talking about how profitable this deal is for Chelsea. Remember, it’s about claiming such deals are astronomical and breaking the game, and I am saying it is not. It has been the norm. I mean, with the salaries CR7 or Benzema are getting, Koulibali’s salary is peanuts. Koulibali will sit on the bench for Chelsea, and clearly they want to get rid of him. So other teams will play hardball to get a better deal for them since they have the advantage in negotiating. His fees aren’t high, his salary is. He is still good enough to have a starting roles for many European clubs. Now that Saudi clubs come and offer him the same salary and the playtime that he wants, so it is a win win. The point wasn’t about it killing the game. It’s about Chelsea getting bailed out. In terms of FFP getting rid of those wages and getting £30m for him is close to the value of our new shirt sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Xhaka and Partey out, Rice and Lavia in is very good business by Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Xhaka and Partey out, Rice and Lavia in is very good business by Arsenal. Red cards and rapes severely reduced too #Winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Wonder how much Chelsea have spent on agent fees alone in the last 18 months. That club just oozes with shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Arsenal are serious Perhaps the new Liverpool as in the main threat to City going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Arsenal seem to go under their radar with their spend like. £200m plus for Lavia, Rice and Havertz on top of the hundreds of millions they've spent the last 3 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, 54 said: Really is outrageous how badly they’ve spent that money Guess it’s as much to do with the lack of plan and structure as the players themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Solitude20 said: Read my post again. Chelsea did the exact same thing 12 months ago, and I gave examples for worse deals by other teams. So the idea that only Saudi does that isn’t true. He was literally sold at book value. I don’t get your point then. The others might be bad transfers. But Chelsea will be the only team to get all of their money back and all of the wages off the books. Maguire will be let go for free and likely with his wages subsidised for the remainder of us Man U contract. Lukaku was loaned out and some of his wages subsidised, as he’s not going to Saudi - Chelsea will have to do something similar again or keep him. Koulibali would be the best defender in Saudi. I’m not criticising what it might bring the Saudi league - I’m criticising what it will bring Chelsea, nobody else would offer it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Yeah, the players are mostly saleable and good players, Chelsea would just normally have to take a much bigger hit to get them out the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 90m bid rejected for rice from arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: 90m bid rejected for rice from arsenal. Ooof. I think that's probably a good bid if it's all guaranteed coin and not dependent on CL/PL titles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I mean, no one accepts the first bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: 90m bid rejected for rice from arsenal. Weren't hammers pushing for 150 or was I dreaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Have to be looking at a deal like Enzo to Chelsea as a similar situation, I suppose. Obviously Chelsea are deranged, but if I was West Ham I would be mentioning it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, toon25 said: Ooof. I think that's probably a good bid if it's all guaranteed coin and not dependent on CL/PL titles. West ham will want atleast 110m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, McCormick said: I mean, no one accepts the first bid. Thought they made a first bid of 80? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 hours ago, 54 said: I'm still confused as to how they're getting past the FFP rules and still spending big money on transfers this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: I'm still confused as to how they're getting past the FFP rules and still spending big money on transfers this window. Wasn’t everything cleared when Todd bought them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: I'm still confused as to how they're getting past the FFP rules and still spending big money on transfers this window. for thousandth time, they are pretty much the only one of the big 6 who consistently sell players for good money, 400m or so in the 5 years prior to the takeover, that plus the allowable losses mean they are fine with FFP. They’re gonna make 200m+ this window from sales so again will be fine. As raised earlier Arsenals ability to spend 200m odd every window with precious little from sales is more interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaztoon said: West ham will want atleast 110m Crazy money. I don't think he's worth that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, OverThere said: Crazy money. I don't think he's worth that. Man Utd and Chelsea have fucked the market so hard to gauge an accurate valuation now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 N-O would be fully melting down if we'd had two bid knocked back for our primary target. It shows it's par for the course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, OverThere said: Crazy money. I don't think he's worth that. To put it into perspective: Rice= Maddison + Szobozlai Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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