Disco Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Odd, pretty sure he scored for OL the other day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 hours ago, toon25 said: Waste of talent. On 04/02/2022 at 21:04, Tomato Deuce said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 So I've just started playing FM 22, and thought I'd tidy up the data before playing. In the process I looked at Man U since they always remain a fucking world powerhouse. The way Man U fans have been crying about investment and shit, I really thought they were hard done by, but seemingly they've spent £1bn on players over the last 10 years?! https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-united/alletransfers/verein/985 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, OCK said: So I've just started playing FM 22, and thought I'd tidy up the data before playing. In the process I looked at Man U since they always remain a fucking world powerhouse. The way Man U fans have been crying about investment and shit, I really thought they were hard done by, but seemingly they've spent £1bn on players over the last 10 years?! https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-united/alletransfers/verein/985 Far and away the biggest failure given their spend over the last 10 years. A decade of waste, both financially and on the field. Amazed we feature so high up in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 That's madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Manxst said: Far and away the biggest failure given their spend over the last 10 years. A decade of waste, both financially and on the field. Amazed we feature so high up in fairness. Also, that’s just on transfer fees and doesn’t incorporate wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Class love that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 11/02/2022 at 19:37, OCK said: So I've just started playing FM 22, and thought I'd tidy up the data before playing. In the process I looked at Man U since they always remain a fucking world powerhouse. The way Man U fans have been crying about investment and shit, I really thought they were hard done by, but seemingly they've spent £1bn on players over the last 10 years?! https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-united/alletransfers/verein/985 Only seeing this. Absolutely not what the issue is. - The Glazers bought the club with a loan, and then saddled the club with the debt from the loan. - We have spent a lot on transfers, but all from the clubs revenue. The Glazers have invested £0 of their own money. - They don't back the club managers and rather make signings they think will be investments rather than provide success on the field. - They pay themselves huge dividends. They've taken 100's of millions out of the club for their own pocket. - Stadium falling to pieces while dividends taken out every year. Some examples: - Pogba allowed to leave for free, only to be signed for a club record fee, and now allowed to leave for free again. - Herrera, a good player who absolutely loved the club, allowed to leave for free. He is the sort of player we're desperate for right now. - Lingard, a player multiple teams wanted, going to be allowed to leave for free. We could have got £15-20m for him in the summer. - We refused to sign Alderweireld for £40m for Mourinho, but spent £80m on Maguire. - Money wasted on Phil Jones. I think we've paid him almost £20m for basically a handful of games. - Alexis Sanchez. We paid a ton of his wages while he was at Inter. Vast majority of all the transfer mistakes were down to Woodward, but he's a Glazer yes man. We are, or were, the most powerful club in the world in terms of revenue, fanbase and stature but the club has been run so bad for so long that we are lagging behind the top sides now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 09/02/2022 at 18:23, 54 said: Shaqiri in the fattest country in the world should be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Wew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Fair play to him tbh, he could of have just given up and phoned it in on Sky, but clearly wants to play, and Denmark is a lush place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Not sure if this is the right place to put this but, Jack Wilshere, just signed for a team in Denmark. What an absolute waste of a career that was. The talent on the guy compared to what’s he’s done is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Incredible how much money they've wasted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, joeyt said: Incredible how much money they've wasted £25 million, three years at the club, 8 appearances. Bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 04:07, The College Dropout said: There's also something about Arteta/Arsenal that he can't get a tune out of established top players consistently. PEA's attitude and professionalism was good enough to tear up the league for what 3 years and become captain? Not long with Arteta and the wheels fell off. Same with Ozil. 3 good years, then falls off a cliff with Arteta, How much of that is because a demand for equality of contribution? I must admit, the whole 'sign da ting' stuff made me queasy. It was clearly Ozil 2.0 and the fawning over him was like watching a toxic couple get back together again. I also think he'll be rife for revisionism now he looks like starting well with Barcelona. The reality is he's far more suited - like Ozil - to being a compliment in a top team (Barca are still a top team domestically) than a game changer like De Bruyne or Yaya Toure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Thiago said: How much of that is because a demand for equality of contribution? I must admit, the whole 'sign da ting' stuff made me queasy. It was clearly Ozil 2.0 and the fawning over him was like watching a toxic couple get back together again. I also think he'll be rife for revisionism now he looks like starting well with Barcelona. The reality is he's far more suited - like Ozil - to being a compliment in a top team (Barca are still a top team domestically) than a game changer like De Bruyne or Yaya Toure. Barcelona now is a much lower level than arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, tgarve said: Barcelona now is a much lower level than arsenal No it's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, tgarve said: Barcelona now is a much lower level than arsenal Funnily enough they've same number of points even though Arsenal have played a game more. That's why I said domestically Barca are a top team still. They've fallen far, but even now they're in the top four, their players are better. The competition in the Premier League is higher than La Liga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: No it's not Their league isn’t a patch on the premier league man. They dropped out the champions league groups. The level of the prem right now is miles above la liga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 No chance, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Agree the PL is better than La Liga right now but Arsenal are absolutely not at a much higher level than Barcelona Barca have 3 of the best young players in the world in their team and loads of other quality. They'll recover quickly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 18/02/2022 at 07:55, Froggy said: Only seeing this. Absolutely not what the issue is. - The Glazers bought the club with a loan, and then saddled the club with the debt from the loan. - We have spent a lot on transfers, but all from the clubs revenue. The Glazers have invested £0 of their own money. - They don't back the club managers and rather make signings they think will be investments rather than provide success on the field. - They pay themselves huge dividends. They've taken 100's of millions out of the club for their own pocket. - Stadium falling to pieces while dividends taken out every year. Some examples: - Pogba allowed to leave for free, only to be signed for a club record fee, and now allowed to leave for free again. - Herrera, a good player who absolutely loved the club, allowed to leave for free. He is the sort of player we're desperate for right now. - Lingard, a player multiple teams wanted, going to be allowed to leave for free. We could have got £15-20m for him in the summer. - We refused to sign Alderweireld for £40m for Mourinho, but spent £80m on Maguire. - Money wasted on Phil Jones. I think we've paid him almost £20m for basically a handful of games. - Alexis Sanchez. We paid a ton of his wages while he was at Inter. Vast majority of all the transfer mistakes were down to Woodward, but he's a Glazer yes man. We are, or were, the most powerful club in the world in terms of revenue, fanbase and stature but the club has been run so bad for so long that we are lagging behind the top sides now. Why would the owners of one of world’s richest clubs have to put their own money in? Also, even if the club has paid its owners £100ms it still had enough to spunk a £billion net and still not be the level of competitiveness that outlay demands. Every team buys a player or 2 that doesn’t work out. Can’t always be the players. Must be the fans tbqph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, triggs said: Agree the PL is better than La Liga right now but Arsenal are absolutely not at a much higher level than Barcelona Barca have 3 of the best young players in the world in their team and loads of other quality. They'll recover quickly was more meaning the level of the teams they were playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 hours ago, joeyt said: Incredible how much money they've wasted fucking who Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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