Disco Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The handball was exactly the same as the one last night. Bloke last night fucked up, bloke tonight didn’t. Reckon he may have been swayed by giving one extremely soft pen already though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 See my previous comments, I simply don't think we needed it. I'm still enjoying the World Cup but yeah I guess you could say it's spoiling it a bit for me. Certainly don't believe we'd be any worse off if all this shite wasn't a thing. We've been back on forth on this in the other VAR thread. I disagree with you on this, but that's fine. I think from a Newcastle perspective, seeing how long we've gone without being given penalties, especially stonewall ones at certain grounds, I'd be over the moon with some decisions going our way for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I’m loving the drama it brings tbh. As i’ve Said before, as a Newcastle fan I personally think we would have benefited from it previously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 See my previous comments, I simply don't think we needed it. I'm still enjoying the World Cup but yeah I guess you could say it's spoiling it a bit for me. Certainly don't believe we'd be any worse off if all this shite wasn't a thing. We'd probably have different teams going through. It would be interesting to see what the standings would be without VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 See my previous comments, I simply don't think we needed it. I'm still enjoying the World Cup but yeah I guess you could say it's spoiling it a bit for me. Certainly don't believe we'd be any worse off if all this shite wasn't a thing. We've been back on forth on this in the other VAR thread. I disagree with you on this, but that's fine. I think from a Newcastle perspective, seeing how long we've gone without being given penalties, especially stonewall ones at certain grounds, I'd be over the moon with some decisions going our way for once. FUCK YOU HOW DARE YOU BE REASONABLE about this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 See my previous comments, I simply don't think we needed it. I'm still enjoying the World Cup but yeah I guess you could say it's spoiling it a bit for me. Certainly don't believe we'd be any worse off if all this shite wasn't a thing. We've been back on forth on this in the other VAR thread. I disagree with you on this, but that's fine. I think from a Newcastle perspective, seeing how long we've gone without being given penalties, especially stonewall ones at certain grounds, I'd be over the moon with some decisions going our way for once. FUCK YOU HOW DARE YOU BE REASONABLE about this I'm on Twitter a lot and when two people disagree amicably, it really feels like there's some hope in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I really think there will be a massive call for var in the premier league now. Big mistakes in big games will be ironed out i guess and it adds a bit of drama, First time newcastle have a major issue with a bad decision this season we will all be calling for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Well I think we can all agree on that it has completely ironed out mistakes by the refs and the "it was, it wasn't"-debate among fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I've never been a supporter of VAR, and it seems to me that unless you have very clear rules about when and how it is applied, there's a danger of more and more decisions being referred to it, and the whole issue of a 'clear and obvious mistake' is going to get very blurred. The Argentinian handball might have been a pen, but there's no way it was a clear mistake, and I don't think it's the sort of situation that VAR is meant for. Because VAR hasn't been tested properly before the tournament, we seem to be getting more and more decisions reversed, on more and more dubious grounds. By the time we get to the final, the whole thing could be in a real mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You lot need to watch it back. He’s gripping his side and his arm, not stopping him leaning back. No leaning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's basically doing the exact same as that Nigerian bloke behind him is doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I’m loving the drama it brings tbh. As i’ve Said before, as a Newcastle fan I personally think we would have benefited from it previously We should've had loads of pens in the past 100% agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 You lot need to watch it back. He’s gripping his side and his arm, not stopping him leaning back. No leaning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's basically doing the exact same as that Nigerian bloke behind him is doing Fair point; so what does the ref do? Benefit to the defender or the attacker? Or do they cancel each other out? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 VAR worth it for simply tempting the Germans there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 That was sublime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 ¡Viva el VAR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I don't like it but that goal really shows the benefit of VAR when it's a decision similar to goalline technology, a black or white decision, rather than a dodgy handball or debatable holding in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Can I shock you? I like VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Can I shock you? I like VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I heart VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I think the idea of it is fine, the implementation is what needs improvement and hopefully that happens in time. Ideally it would have been tested a lot more before an actual World Cup but you can't help that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Bar one or two decisions not to consult it, VAR has infinitely improved my enjoyment of the WC. I'm sad it's not being implemented in the PL next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Can I shock you? I like VAR. The bigger teams used to get more than their share of favourable decisions. For every one that has been questionably wrong (matter of opinion) many more have been right. It should become better with time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Every decision can't be right as they are obviously subjective but it's worth it just to get decisions like the South Korea goal right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 As a Newcastle fan I was all for the idea. But given how it's been used, now I'm starting to wonder why an organisation as corrupt as FIFA has pushed it through so quickly. At the end of the day it looks like you're still at the mercy of someone giving seemingly bizarre decisions. Now goals can be disallowed and pens awarded for the slightest thing, and huge offences ignored. So far I'm not convinced it's led to better refereeing. It is worth persevering with but the idea to trial it at a world cup was nuts. I realise they got it right tonight in the Germany game and those types of decisions (clear cut) are really what we were told it was designed for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Every decision can't be right as they are obviously subjective but it's worth it just to get decisions like the South Korea goal right. Imagine the debate if Germany had scored if it stayed 0-0. Every pundit would be staying why don't we have VAR etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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