Coffee_Johnny Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Including the pedantic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: aye that famously upright Maradonna and Messi are awful like ?? you ever thought biomechanics might play a bit of a part in it, along with the massive disparity in height between the players you mentioned? You seen either play? Maradona runs so upright with the ball he may as well have a rod from the base of his skull down to his heels. Dropping a shoulder is not the same as running with the ball. Not sure what point you're trying to make. It's about having awareness and having your head up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: good to see people know the difference between biometrics and biomechanics ?? Dats da joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, The Butcher said: Yeah, he never looked like a good PL defender before Howe came in, imo. Agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlynnherrington Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Ronaldo said: Nonsense that. Under Rafa in his last season he looked very good. Decent at times but rash at times with silly tackles in dangerous areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 He had that sometimes, but also often if he was out for a while it seemed to take him a while to get up to speed and cut out the reckless tackles. I completely agree Howe has made him better but man I used to rave about the lejeune lascelles schar backline (and Schar scored a few worldies as well then) as much better than the rest of our team. I was skeptical he could play in a 4 particularly one pressing high but he has proved me wrong on that, but he was always one of our most technically gifted players and an absolute steal for the price we got him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, HawK said: You seen either play? Maradona runs so upright with the ball he may as well have a rod from the base of his skull down to his heels. Dropping a shoulder is not the same as running with the ball. Not sure what point you're trying to make. It's about having awareness and having your head up. Yes, anyone moving at pace has a forward lean at the ankles, and playing with your head up, doesn’t necessitate being totally upright. They’re not dogs ffs they can look up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 That last pic is just a bulked up Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Last time he played against Schar? Nice hattrick to seal the league title. Ridiculous 4th from Barca. Messi assaulted him in the second half. Edited December 5, 2022 by nemtizz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, elbee909 said: That last pic is just a bulked up Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Aye let's ignore the video of Maradona scoring one his wonder goals if it helps prove your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 The 3 at the back thing is interesting. Like... I've thought being in a 3 has prolonged Thiago Silva's top level career. Before this season, I would say he would struggle a lot in a back 4. But this season, he's looked fine in a back 4. Schar doesn't have tremendous pace but he is much better defending further up the pitch. Winning headers isn't a strength either, so playing in a low-block and dealing with header after header isn't playing to his strengths. He's better at proactive defending up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, The College Dropout said: The 3 at the back thing is interesting. Like... I've thought being in a 3 has prolonged Thiago Silva's top level career. Before this season, I would say he would struggle a lot in a back 4. But this season, he's looked fine in a back 4. Schar doesn't have tremendous pace but he is much better defending further up the pitch. Winning headers isn't a strength either, so playing in a low-block and dealing with header after header isn't playing to his strengths. He's better at proactive defending up the pitch. As I said on previous page, not sure there are many CBs who shine in back to the walls low block defending constantly. I think Schar is an aggressive defender (hence why he's great at intercepting) who's game is suited to being, as you say, proactive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, LV said: Injured? Been ill recently, I think they said? Certainly looked miles off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Wonder if he'll meet up with the lads in Saudi? Edited December 6, 2022 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Hopefully not. Give him a couple of weeks off to get rid of whatever ailment he’s carrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, 54 said: Wonder if he'll meet up with the lads in Saudi? Of course he wont. He will have some days of before coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Been ill recently, I think they said? Certainly looked miles off it. Tbf, they looked even worse after he went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Not sure how he comes back from this tbh. Maybe time to give him a rest on bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) He’s a professional. I mean, he survived two years of being Bruced up the ass Edited December 6, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, Slim said: Not sure how he comes back from this tbh. Maybe time to give him a rest on bench. Retire him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Worrying performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, Slim said: Not sure how he comes back from this tbh. Maybe time to give him a rest on bench. Wonder if we can recall Ciaran Clark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Missed the game. Was he that bad?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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