samptime29 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Bruce has been ridiculously lucky results wise this season, really we should be right in the thick of it and you'd see him wobbling like f*** trying to self preservate. You have the joint best home record with 12 goals conceded, you're going to pick up points. 10 clean sheets from 30 games. Total luck? Nothing but luck? Dubs has been the busiest keeper on the planet, just so happens he's retained form or we'd be f***ed. So many games where we deserved nothing and spawned our way with points. It's not sustainable. Same as pardew and his 5th, all about luck. You can't only concede 12 goals in 15 home games and think it's purely about luck. A ridiculous opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Bruce has been ridiculously lucky results wise this season, really we should be right in the thick of it and you'd see him wobbling like f*** trying to self preservate. You have the joint best home record with 12 goals conceded, you're going to pick up points. 10 clean sheets from 30 games. Total luck? Nothing but luck? Dubs has been the busiest keeper on the planet, just so happens he's retained form or we'd be f***ed. So many games where we deserved nothing and spawned our way with points. It's not sustainable. Same as pardew and his 5th, all about luck. You can't only concede 12 goals in 15 home games and think it's purely about luck. A ridiculous opinion. Sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 That isn't true, I certainly don't have to go looking and I don't see how it's micro-anslysing; he said it and it's right there in the one match report I read (BBC)! It's a nothing quote and you're getting all worked up over it. It's weird. I'm being critical of the quote for sure; saying I'm getting 'worked up' is a bit baseless - I'm just raising a point that I feel strongly about, just as anyone may raise any other point. In the context of the win and the reignited debate about whether or not Bruce should stay on after the takeover, I'm taking issue with and pointing out that his small-time Ashleyesque attitude is one very good reason why he shouldn't even be in the debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 It's definitely a quite Pardew would have said and we'd all be angry at how belittling he was being of us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joeyt Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Almost like people forgot Rafa wanted to strive for more than survival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Almost like people forgot Rafa wanted to strive for more than survival Yeah, and somehow Ashley tricked him into believing that he could take us up take league. Wanting success is one thing, but we’ll never achieve it under Ashley no matter what. The closest we ever came to some success was under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 That isn't true, I certainly don't have to go looking and I don't see how it's micro-anslysing; he said it and it's right there in the one match report I read (BBC)! It's a nothing quote and you're getting all worked up over it. It's weird. I'm being critical of the quote for sure; saying I'm getting 'worked up' is a bit baseless - I'm just raising a point that I feel strongly about, just as anyone may raise any other point. In the context of the win and the reignited debate about whether or not Bruce should stay on after the takeover, I'm taking issue with and pointing out that his small-time Ashleyesque attitude is one very good reason why he shouldn't even be in the debate. Course you are being deliberately negative. If you actually watch the interview he talks about how they've told the players the focus is on catching the teams above and that they shouldn't be concerned with anyone below them. The whole interview is based around doing better than they are, the exact opposite of making do like you claim. That doesn't fit your overall agenda though, does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy2Sheds Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Looks like Meghan Trainor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 That isn't true, I certainly don't have to go looking and I don't see how it's micro-anslysing; he said it and it's right there in the one match report I read (BBC)! It's a nothing quote and you're getting all worked up over it. It's weird. I'm being critical of the quote for sure; saying I'm getting 'worked up' is a bit baseless - I'm just raising a point that I feel strongly about, just as anyone may raise any other point. In the context of the win and the reignited debate about whether or not Bruce should stay on after the takeover, I'm taking issue with and pointing out that his small-time Ashleyesque attitude is one very good reason why he shouldn't even be in the debate. Course you are being deliberately negative. If you actually watch the interview he talks about how they've told the players the focus is on catching the teams above and that they shouldn't be concerned with anyone below them. The whole interview is based around doing better than they are, the exact opposite of making do like you claim. That doesn't fit your overall agenda though, does it? Nope, I wasn't being deliberately negative but I will hold my hands up: my post was based on the one quote I saw in the article. I don't watch his interviews cos I can barely stomach looking at the bloke in a Newcastle tracksuit. If he said as you say, then fair enough; that's what the attitude should be and should always be. We all know that the goal of the club hasn't been to better ourselves, that's why we're all craving this takeover. My agenda is wanting a better calibre of football people at the club and the poorer ones away from it, particularly those who I see as being disingenuous and enabling of the Ashley regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Sheff United were objectively f***ing awful lol. I know butcher loves him like, but it was 0-0 before the red card, and I wouldn't say we were bossing the game. Horrific defensive error, and horrific keeping for both goals, i'm glad we are safe but there was nothing special about this. Sheffield United looked completely dead and for some reason Wilder decided to throw more forward when they were a man down when we could easily counter them with pace. Weird from him as he's been great all season I don't love him. Not at all. I do think he's done a good job this season (result wise) and I think he gets way too much undeserved stick on here. I want him gone when the takeover is confirmed, but I think he can be proud of what he's achieved here this season. Right, but if you look at every single available metric we are ranked 20th? does that not point you to the fact that we are picking up results despite him, not because of him? That is unsustainably bad. It's also a strange season, not dismissing Sheffield United's season but any remotely decent Prem season would not have them anywhere near the position they are in. There's a dearth of quality teams in the league this season and it shows. I'm not disputing he's shit, but this isn't remotely true There are many metrics where we aren't. Points being one of them and goals conceded being another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 You’re imposing a glass ceiling on yourself ultimately and he was the continuity candidate - yes by some logic he’s earned a chance but we all know what it’s going to take for new owners to show a step change - and that means Bruce is on borrowed time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Earned a chance. Dear me. He's a woeful manager and always has been. He's been managing for 22 years and he's promoted 2 teams from the Championship and lost an FA Cup final. That's it. He's not won a single thing as a manager and he's go the worst win % in PL history. He's palpably and demonstrably dogshit as a manager as always has been. He's done nothing in his previous 21 seasons to even deserve another crack at the PL in July 2019 with any club. To credit him now is ignoring 21 years worth of evidence that he's very poor at his job. It's a blip. It happens now and again, it's happening now, he isn't suddenly a good manager who's flipped a switch and decided to be good for 30 games. If people want to give him credit then they're more than welcome. If he repeats it for the next 3 or 4 seasons here or elsewhere and proves it's not a bit of a fluke then I'll change my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Danny Murphy and Phil Neville desperately trying to get Bruce the gig if the takeover happens. These cunts from the establishment are gong to try every trick in the book to throw a spanner in our works. "Newcastle need a manager who knows the area" ...they are absolutely desperate to keep the stereotype alive and kicking and keep NUFC "in their box". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just watching the MOTD Bruce arse-licking and Neville with the "His style of football is better than Rafa" Okay, lets just forget the rubbish football we were playing for most of the season when he decided to go back to Rafa's system and play it in the most statistically boring manner but it worked... just. Wasn't fucking pleasant on the eye mind without Rondon or Perez. He keeps us up, has us anywhere 10th - 13th, that'll be a good job hes done but to say we should not be looking at Pochettino is absurd. This is the same manager the likes of Real Madrid / Barcelona / Man United have been eyeing. When you can afford the best, there is no room for sentiment. He's done a good job but lets be real here, Steve Bruce as the manager/coach of one of the richest clubs in the world if this takeover goes through. Imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 We all know he won’t be in the plans if we’re actually going for success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nraider Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Why not? Better record here than Rafa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 We all know he won’t be in the plans if we’re actually going for success. You say that, but I worry that new owners would listen to this relentless media bullshit and start being influenced by it. Especially if they start taking a microphone on the streets and radio phone-ins to the most dim-witted element of our support who will give it the "Brucie is a Geordie" bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Yeah that is insane and definitely won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 They’ll be comparing his CV to other potential managers I would imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 They're business people, you wouldn't put someone in charge of managing an investment portfolio just because they're from the area its based in yet drastically underqualifed in every other area. I'm confident Bruce is binned and someone competent is brought in. After all, as has been mentioned, ambassadorial roles can be created for those with a passion and love for the club but who don't have the talent or skills to fulfil footballing positions. Not that I'm suggesting for one moment that Bruce should have one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Blood pressure through the roof watching that ugly cunt Phil Neville and that egg headed prick Murphy sucking Bruce off on MOTD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 He’s insignificant TBH, the only important thing is the getting rid of Ashley. Whether they fire Bruce immediately or in a few months is just a detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Keep him until the season is finished, would be surprised if he goes before then. Would be ruthless if he was sacked the day it was announced, the media would be furious. It would be fucking great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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