Robster Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Wheres them Rafa graphs? Don't have any graphs but we're 9 points better off than at this stage last season. We hit 21 points against Cardiff, which was our 22nd game. Think we will tail off massively if ASM is out for a couple of months. Interesting all the same. We'll tail off massively because of Steve Bruce, regardless of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Give him an 8 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Incidentally, who else would have taken Dummet off for Schar and pushed Clark left, Clark was the one doing most of the organising from what I could see. Definitely. I assumed Clark had got an injury. Putting Schar on the left allowed them to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Lickspittles, Pardewistas and Nationalists in dream land. Boris Bruce leading the way to mediocrity to the utter dreams of many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Incidentally, who else would have taken Dummet off for Schar and pushed Clark left, Clark was the one doing most of the organising from what I could see. Clark had a pulled/strained calf so would have been pretty hopeless if he had been left on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 He's tweeted to Mark Douglas saying he tweeted that to "throw a grenade in". He's best ignored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Proper cunt Luke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Says it all about the state of the local media regarding the club and its coverage as well as the media at large and their priorities. Pleased I unfollowed him months back, Chronicle lot aren’t much better. My only surprise is the stayaways haven’t gone rushing back like they had to be their for the Arsenal game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. Except that we're much worse with the ball now compared to before We look disjointed and clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. Let's compare at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. You do understand that all successful players will be sold don’t you? As agreed by Bruce and mr Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. If you don't see the difference to the last half of last season then you're either blind/stupid or just a massive wum. I know where my money is at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. Except that we're much worse with the ball now compared to before. No we're not. We're the same. Your memory is playing tricks with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Come on guys, Rafa wasn't producing brilliant displays of attacking football. He was getting 10 men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks and set pieces. Bruce is getting results in the same way with more or less the same team. Hopefully the emergence of the Longstaffs and some good signings (yeah, I know) will make us a bit less one-dimensional. We can but hope. Except that we're much worse with the ball now compared to before. No we're not. We're the same. Your memory is playing tricks with you. Yeah right... :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 As far as I can tell, and I’m no Steve Bruce Fan, the football/tactics are basically identical to the last two seasons, except now we have Saint Maximin who can produce some moments of magic to make it feel more attacking (in reality it’s basically the same). And to be honest I’m fine with that. I haven’t disliked watching us this season anywhere near as much as I was expecting to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 It's better to be lucky than good. I don't know how we're getting some of these results but as a few people have said, it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment but we've seen what happens when he tries to put his own "stamp" on the team and I'm sure he'll try it again soon and we'll get humped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I agree the set up and tactics are very similar to what Rafa was producing in the Premier League, well until Rondon signed and then it became much more. Rondon and Perez made us so much more up top than we see now, to be fair Bruce has got our defenders to start chipping in which is good, but Rafa's team looked more solid and with Rondon the team was much more than it was without him, and far better than Bruce's team now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 it's so similar to the Pardew 5th season. Credit where it's due to Bruce for getting the results at the moment No credit at all. You've said it yourself that it's similar to the 5th place season. The following season proved that we finished 5th in spite of Pardew, not because of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 So far he’s done better than anyone could have feasibly expected, however just like Pardew it is never sustainable. Guess who wins again while the support the team lads are busy point scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up. We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of shit this guy has. Even a cunt like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start. Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 A few jammy wins is all it needs. This is why we’ll be stuck with that fat cunt for years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 He’s not accepted because his managerial career is steeped in failure and he’s palpably fucking shit. Indian summers here and there don’t mask the fact he’s achieved and won nothing as a manager in about 20 years. He’s poor and he’s taken the job knowing he’s going to be willingly pushing the Ashley narrative. He’s a fucking arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I think there’s some sort of inferiority complex ingrained in the Geordie mindset. When charmers like Keegan or Rafa roll in, its lapped up. We’ve had worse managers than Bruce. We’ve had better for sure but we have had worse and they’ve never gotten the sort of shit this guy has. Even a cunt like Allardyce got welcomed more than this chap, not at the end but that was his own doing. He was given a fair chance from the start. Bruce hasn’t. He’s exceeded all expectations. But because he’s a local lad he’s judged differently. He’ll never be accepted because the majority of supporters would rather have someone they don’t feel worthy of having. Go on then. What makes him a good manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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