Steve Brute

[Anderson]

People dislike Bruce for what he represents, pure unashamed apathy. The very fact your making a song and dance about us being 12th pretty much sums it up. 43 points is nothing to celebrate, regardless of if it’s not quite been the implosion some feared. Bruce’s appointment, the media’s championing of his ‘success’ and celebrating 43 points (ffs) is all part and parcel of the club’s wings being clipped. It’s us being told that this is all Newcastle United can strive for, treading water in the PL and that we should be happy with it. Bruce is complicit in all that, so fuck him.

[samptime29]

People dislike Bruce for what he represents, pure unashamed apathy. The very fact your making a song and dance about us being 12th pretty much sums it up. 43 points is nothing to celebrate, regardless of if it’s not quite been the implosion some feared. Bruce’s appointment, the media’s championing of his ‘success’ and celebrating 43 points (ffs) is all part and parcel of the club’s wings being clipped. It’s us being told that this is all Newcastle United can strive for, treading water in the PL and that we should be happy with it. Bruce is complicit in that, so fuck him.

 

But I'm not though am I?

 

And of course if you'd read my messages you'd understand that? But you didn't. Another flawed argument from another poster who can't/won't read.

 

[Anderson]

What argument? There's no discussion. I simply remain bewildered as to why you get angry over people's dislike of someone you accept is shit, simply because he's done 'okay'.

 

Quite honestly, I don't even recall you engaging with me until now. I pop in now and then with a dickish comment that usually gets ignored.

 

god damnit

 

Why are you angry that we're on 43 points in 33 games?

[samptime29]

Anderson, how is that a song and dance? 

 

 

[Anderson]

Just take your own advice and read your posts - dummy out, calling people dicks, because they aren’t full of praise at Brucey’s 43 points. Gan to bed, man.

[samptime29]

Just take your own advice and read your posts - dummy out, calling people dicks, because they aren’t full of praise at Brucey’s 43 points. Gan to bed, man.

 

I'm calling Wormy a dick for a shit meme.

 

I responded to a fucking selective message about us driopping points at home to "Norwich, Villa, Watford, West Ham and Brighton" being VERY POOR.

 

Can you read Anderson? "VERY POOR". We have lost 3 games at home. Is that very poor? See, it's easy to be selective too. 

[Anderson]

Failing to beat 5 of the bottom 6 at home is very poor, even if it has been masked by some very fortunate results against other teams. Hope that helps.

[samptime29]

Failing to beat 5 of the bottom 6 at home is very poor, even if it has been masked by some very fortunate results against other teams. Hope that helps.

 

But again you're being selective. Beating Chelsea at home. Great. Beating Man Utd at home. Great. Drawing with City. Great. Only losing 3 games at home. Great.

 

Take the loss and go to bed. Night. 

 

 

[Guest]

We’ve won 6 home games out of 17, do you think that’s acceptable? Unless we get a draw against Liverpool, our home form is likely to have been the same as we managed in our last relegation season.

[Raconteur]

If you're giving Bruce any credit whatsoever for Chelsea, you're degrading your own argument. Beating the Blues was the greatest injustice I've seen on a football pitch.

[Judge Holden]

If you're giving Bruce any credit whatsoever for Chelsea, you're degrading your own argument. Beating the Blues was the greatest injustice I've seen on a football pitch.

 

Love a proper shithouse win, me.

[TK-421]

Another one for the ignore list.

[Wilson]

Interesting catch up in the football forum this morning

[Dr.Spaceman]

If you're giving Bruce any credit whatsoever for Chelsea, you're degrading your own argument. Beating the Blues was the greatest injustice I've seen on a football pitch.

 

It's like saying Homer Simpson is a great boxer in S08E03.

[Shearergol]

What argument? There's no discussion. I simply remain bewildered as to why you get angry over people's dislike of someone you accept is shit, simply because he's done 'okay'.

 

Quite honestly, I don't even recall you engaging with me until now. I pop in now and then with a dickish comment that usually gets ignored.

 

god damnit

 

Why are you angry that we're on 43 points in 33 games?

 

How do you enjoy asking these questions over and over again?

 

I'm not angry. I'm quite definitively non-plussed over this whole season, mainly over my disillusionment thanks primarily to Ashley. Am I not allowed to continue disliking Steve Bruce as much for his personality as his management ability?

 

Funnily enough I feel like the only time I posted more than an off the cuff snarky comment that explained a lot of people's dislike of Bruce is clearly about more than just whatever points total we get this year, it was one of those times I didn't see you engage at all. But obviously you couldn't just ask me 'but is he doing okay?' in response.

 

I showed my (non toon fan) friend this thread earlier today.

 

He was embarassed at the comments.

 

"Why do they hate him so much? I just don't get it."

 

No Daniel, I don't either. It's a very negative messageboard. Not just on Steve Bruce, but most of the players tbf.

 

Very negative, very snide. That's NO Online.

 

It's nowt really to do with Bruce hate, Yes he managed the Mackems, and yes his managerial record is wank, But its what's gone on here in the Ashley era, and whoever followed Rafa wasn't going to get the respect.

 

But with Bruce if he was any kind of Newcastle fan which he isn't any kind of Geordie that he might like to pretend to be at times, he would have steered clear of working under this regime, most of us thought we'd turned the corner with Rafa, but it was more piss poor treatment, like Keegan and Houghton before hand.

 

With Bruce I'm glad he's proving the doubters wrong, I'm glad the club are doing well and players may be happy? But I don't suppose I'd be bothered if Bruce was sacked tomorrow or even if the new owners don't want him.

I cant deny hes done ok, but I genuinely think any of the current PL managers would have done equally as good if not slightly better, and we have had some lucky moments this season.

 

Dont hate him, but I didn't want him as manager to start with and if we get taken over I'd hope he's replaced immediately.

 

But as things stand I hope he does the best he possibly can.

 

??

 

Of course it is.  :lol:

 

A lot of posters just simply HATE HIM on this board. It's weird. It's strange. But that's how they feel.

 

 

 

You're the only person saying this, over and over and over. Saying something enough doesn't make it fact. Obviously putting it all in capitals helps, but still.

 

Apart from the fact that you were a massive Pardew fan, and you absolutely LOVED him. Oh, and you want Ashley to stay. Remember that. You've been stating that for years.

[wormy]

What argument? There's no discussion. I simply remain bewildered as to why you get angry over people's dislike of someone you accept is shit, simply because he's done 'okay'.

 

Quite honestly, I don't even recall you engaging with me until now. I pop in now and then with a dickish comment that usually gets ignored.

 

god damnit

 

Why are you angry that we're on 43 points in 33 games?

 

How do you enjoy asking these questions over and over again?

 

I'm not angry. I'm quite definitively non-plussed over this whole season, mainly over my disillusionment thanks primarily to Ashley. Am I not allowed to continue disliking Steve Bruce as much for his personality as his management ability?

 

Funnily enough I feel like the only time I posted more than an off the cuff snarky comment that explained a lot of people's dislike of Bruce is clearly about more than just whatever points total we get this year, it was one of those times I didn't see you engage at all. But obviously you couldn't just ask me 'but is he doing okay?' in response.

 

I showed my (non toon fan) friend this thread earlier today.

 

He was embarassed at the comments.

 

"Why do they hate him so much? I just don't get it."

 

No Daniel, I don't either. It's a very negative messageboard. Not just on Steve Bruce, but most of the players tbf.

 

Very negative, very snide. That's NO Online.

 

It's nowt really to do with Bruce hate, Yes he managed the Mackems, and yes his managerial record is wank, But its what's gone on here in the Ashley era, and whoever followed Rafa wasn't going to get the respect.

 

But with Bruce if he was any kind of Newcastle fan which he isn't any kind of Geordie that he might like to pretend to be at times, he would have steered clear of working under this regime, most of us thought we'd turned the corner with Rafa, but it was more piss poor treatment, like Keegan and Houghton before hand.

 

With Bruce I'm glad he's proving the doubters wrong, I'm glad the club are doing well and players may be happy? But I don't suppose I'd be bothered if Bruce was sacked tomorrow or even if the new owners don't want him.

I cant deny hes done ok, but I genuinely think any of the current PL managers would have done equally as good if not slightly better, and we have had some lucky moments this season.

 

Dont hate him, but I didn't want him as manager to start with and if we get taken over I'd hope he's replaced immediately.

 

But as things stand I hope he does the best he possibly can.

 

??

 

Of course it is.  :lol:

 

A lot of posters just simply HATE HIM on this board. It's weird. It's strange. But that's how they feel.

 

 

 

So gutted I went with a shit meme instead of engaging like an adult. Means I missed out on such a reasoned response as this.

[Robster]

Such an impassioned defense of him. Admirable if a little difficult to understand.

For me it feels like another 'unsustainable' season that will balance out whenever the next one starts.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

10 points dropped at home against Norwich, Villa, Watford, West Ham and Brighton is very poor

 

How about beating Spurs away? How about beating Man United at home? How about beating Chelsea at home? How about doing the double over Sheffield United without conceding? How about doing the double over Southampton? How about doing the double over Bournemouth? How about 3 home losses this season in 17 games? Is that VERY POOR? 

 

Alex Bruce has logged back on it seems

 

Why even quote my post if you are not even going to bother to engage with it in a meaningful way? You don’t even address the point I’m making and then you hysterically hurry your way through a whatabout tour of Bruce’s achievements 

 

We have lost THREE games at home.  :lol:

 

And you're moaning about home form. Incredible. 

 

We’ve dropped TEN points at home to relegation-threatened sides in the league

 

That was the only point I was making, however way you want to spin it, it’s poor. Fans at other clubs would be looking back at saying the same if they had the same record.

 

Again, you’ve not engaged with the point I’m actually making, third time’s a charm?

 

Of course I’m being selective, because my post was solely our record about the bottom 6 clubs you complete idiot

 

Failing to beat 5 of the bottom 6 at home is very poor, even if it has been masked by some very fortunate results against other teams. Hope that helps.

 

This 

[Shearergol]

Such an impassioned defense of him. Admirable if a little difficult to understand.

For me it feels like another 'unsustainable' season that will balance out whenever the next one starts.

 

He LOVED Pardew too remember.

[mrmojorisin75]

Failing to beat 5 of the bottom 6 at home is very poor, even if it has been masked by some very fortunate results against other teams. Hope that helps.

 

But again you're being selective. Beating Chelsea at home. Great. Beating Man Utd at home. Great. Drawing with City. Great. Only losing 3 games at home. Great.

 

Take the loss and go to bed. Night. 

 

 

despite my personal feelings about bruce, which have softened somewhat over the season, what many of us said was that his football was and is unsustainable as evidenced by those ludicrous stats we saw earlier in the season

 

if you can't see a problem with a breadline team like us not beating the shit at the bottom but getting shock results against the richer teams to survive then not sure anyone is going to be able to help you

 

by common consensus it's been a terrible season for the usual suspects at the top of the table, and we've got a number of results we're very unlikely to repeat next season if he's still about

 

also look at this "great restart" we've had, unless ASM is ripping teams up to fuck on his own or they're getting themselves sent off or gifting us goals we're just not winning them...bruce hasn't improved the system, he's just given them more freedom and that's going to result in more erratic results long term imo

[STM]

Samptime paying the old Luke Edward's womanchester card there.

 

How pathetic that someone uses their child, who they have influence over, as some sort of arbiter.

[Guest dabe]

Showed a friend who doesn't exist this forum earlier, they said we're all very reasonable and above board about Bruce as he's fluked his way to a decent season (still bottom half), appreciated the calmness in our assessments and he also said this samptime is a knacker.

 

I said, yes made up bollocks person, yes he is. Y SO ANGRY?

[gjohnson]

Ok to summarise fairly...he's not a very good Premier League Manager. Players like him because he's a good 'people person'. He'll happily walk out on a club for a better opportunity regardless of local loyalties.

 

Best thing I can say about him is that he has the self awareness to  recognise that he's on the PFM gravy train, and is happy to stay on it as long as the pay goes in at the end of the month.

 

If Gateshead suddenly became wealthy (ish) and offered him 5K more a week I'd fully expect to see him rocking up at the International Stadium claiming it was his 'boyhood club'

[NEEJ]

The worst bit about all of this is that Omar Little has been dragged through the mud by way of association.

[Yorkie]

My disdain for Bruce has reduced somewhat since the restart (not that I'll ever rate him or feel any affection for him). When he goes I'll simply be saying goodbye and closing the door, rather than kicking him on the way out whilst sticking my fingers up. I could maybe even relent to the point of agreeing that he's done 'okay,' or at least say he hasn't done a bad job. A bad job would've been a relegation battle, and we've been clear of that for months and months.

 

Spurs, Chelsea, the Sheffield Uniteds and Bournemouth have been the especially remarkable games this season imo (for one reason or another, be it result/performance/result-and-performance). Maybe Man City as well, but they've been extremely beatable this season - as the likes of even Norwich have shown.

 

The other wins are par for the course for any other mid-table/lower-mid-table side, tbh. Man Utd were absolutely terrible and arguably the worst team I've seen us face all year.

 

And for every remarkably positive game there's been at least one remarkably negative one, too. The Leicesters, Norwichs, Villas, Burnleys, and some others (ManU away/ManC in the cup): all varying shades of dismal to unacceptable.