tinoasprilla Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Other than Carver I honestly don't think we have had a shitter manager in the premier league erap. Roeder was better than this. While Pardew, Souness and Allardyce were rancid people I actually think Bruce is worse. Absolutely f***ing clueless. Said with conviction because I am "entitled to my opinion." [/quot Agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who is available that could replace him? Ashley won’t show any ambition (as usual) when the takeover is still in the background. I will still never understand why Ashley didn’t keep Rafa and give him everything he wanted as a pretence when he knew there was a chance of sale within 12 months. It’s just simple business sense if anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who is available that could replace him? Ashley won’t show any ambition (as usual) when the takeover is still in the background. I will still never understand why Ashley didn’t keep Rafa and give him everything he wanted as a pretence when he knew there was a chance of sale within 12 months. It’s just simple business sense if anything Ashley is a narcissist. Rafa wasn’t sycophantic enough. Desperate journeymen are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who is available that could replace him? Ashley won’t show any ambition (as usual) when the takeover is still in the background. I will still never understand why Ashley didn’t keep Rafa and give him everything he wanted as a pretence when he knew there was a chance of sale within 12 months. It’s just simple business sense if anything Howe. Won’t cost anything either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Love the "who is worse" debate. Saw a load of "even pardew was better", crap the other day too. We've had Keegan, SBR, Keegan again, Hughton and Rafa who were good since the PL began. The rest have been a mixture of AIDS, Cancer and being stabbed by sharp objects. It doesn't matter what rank they find themselves, they were all equally harmful to us. What is most hurtful is that we went FROM AIDS to Cancer, flirted with a cure and said "no fuck it, bring on the sharp objects too." The manager is shite, the club is rotten and it's being like that 90% of the last 15 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who is available that could replace him? Ashley won’t show any ambition (as usual) when the takeover is still in the background. I will still never understand why Ashley didn’t keep Rafa and give him everything he wanted as a pretence when he knew there was a chance of sale within 12 months. It’s just simple business sense if anything Mark Hughes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Who is available that could replace him? Ashley won’t show any ambition (as usual) when the takeover is still in the background. I will still never understand why Ashley didn’t keep Rafa and give him everything he wanted as a pretence when he knew there was a chance of sale within 12 months. It’s just simple business sense if anything Howe. Won’t cost anything either. I'd even have Bilic also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe is a good shout and we have players he knows how to use as well. That sort of appointment would show a semblance of ambition so it wouldn’t happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 At this point I honestly wouldn't be against someone like Farke at Norwich being given a shot. With a bit more money to spend than Norwich have, he may be able to do good things in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe and Bilic wouldn't come here, man. No decent manager with any self-respect, would want to work for Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I’d have the manager who just beat us like Same. He carries home self very well and can spot a good talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I’d take Howe. Would be a step up for him, think he could be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe and Bilic wouldn't come here, man. No decent manager with any self-respect, would want to work for Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe and Bilic wouldn't come here, man. No decent manager with any self-respect, would want to work for Mike Ashley. That ship has sailed, bonny lad. Decent managers will have seen how the owner treat Rafa. No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making a theoretically progressive appointment like Howe would be very frustrating with Ashley still the owner. Oh, I see, so you actually want your most important employee to be talented/interesting/honest/exciting after all, do you? What about the extremely decorated manager - who not only got results but who also grasped, identified with, and sold the identity of the club - you let walk away for nowt? Fuck it. What exactly are we supposed to be hoping for here, re a change in manager? Are we hoping that we land on a manager who is both talented enough and likeable enough to ensure that the club performs well and can be identified with; all the while being enough of a patsy to ensure that he doesn't upset the applecart and is unbendingly loyal to his paymasters? Sorry, like, but that manager doesn't exist. There's no silver bullet which means both me and Mike Ashley are both totally content. You get Rafas or you get Bruces. Or completely useless ones that work for no one, like McClaren. I hope Bruce stays exactly where he is until the new owners come in; cannot be remotely fucked in another three years of pretending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe and Bilic wouldn't come here, man. No decent manager with any self-respect, would want to work for Mike Ashley. That ship has sailed, bonny lad. Decent managers will have seen how the owner treat Rafa. No chance. Managers of Rafa’s stature, sure. But a younger up-and-coming or not quite established manager could be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Howe and Bilic wouldn't come here, man. No decent manager with any self-respect, would want to work for Mike Ashley. That ship has sailed, bonny lad. Decent managers will have seen how the owner treat Rafa. No chance. Incredibly true. Any decent professional will keep a million miles away from Newcastle and Ashley. So sad but so annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 "Wuh got wa backsides kicked, we'll hadda roll up wah sleeves, dust ourselves doon and get back to basics." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making a theoretically progressive appointment like Howe would be very frustrating with Ashley still the owner. Oh, I see, so you actually want your most important employee to be talented/interesting/honest/exciting after all, do you? What about the extremely decorated manager - who not only got results but who also grasped, identified with, and sold the identity of the club - you let walk away for nowt? Fuck it. What exactly are we supposed to be hoping for here, re a change in manager? Are we hoping that we land on a manager who is both talented enough to get the club performing to a respectable degree, whilst being a decent enough bloke which enables the likes of me to begin identifying with the club again? All the while being enough of a patsy to ensure that he doesn't upset the applecart and is unbendingly loyal to his paymasters? Sorry, like, but that manager doesn't exist. There's no silver bullet which means both me and Mike Ashley are both totally content. You get Rafas or you get Bruces. Or completely useless ones that work for no one, like McClaren. I hope Bruce stays exactly where he is until the new owners come in; cannot be remotely fucked in another three years of pretending. An awful lot of me thinks like this however the rest of me wants to enjoy watching games again. I also have no hope that we’ll see a takeover remotely soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making a theoretically progressive appointment like Howe would be very frustrating with Ashley still the owner. Oh, I see, so you actually want your most important employee to be talented/interesting/honest/exciting after all, do you? What about the extremely decorated manager - who not only got results but who also grasped, identified with, and sold the identity of the club - you let walk away for nowt? Fuck it. What exactly are we supposed to be hoping for here, re a change in manager? Are we hoping that we land on a manager who is both talented enough to get the club performing to a respectable degree, whilst being a decent enough bloke which enables the likes of me to begin identifying with the club again? All the while being enough of a patsy to ensure that he doesn't upset the applecart and is unbendingly loyal to his paymasters? Sorry, like, but that manager doesn't exist. There's no silver bullet which means both me and Mike Ashley are both totally content. You get Rafas or you get Bruces. Or completely useless ones that work for no one, like McClaren. I hope Bruce stays exactly where he is until the new owners come in; cannot be remotely fucked in another three years of pretending. I just want to be able to support Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Plain to see that the players are waiting for this fat mess to be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making a theoretically progressive appointment like Howe would be very frustrating with Ashley still the owner. Oh, I see, so you actually want your most important employee to be talented/interesting/honest/exciting after all, do you? What about the extremely decorated manager - who not only got results but who also grasped, identified with, and sold the identity of the club - you let walk away for nowt? Fuck it. What exactly are we supposed to be hoping for here, re a change in manager? Are we hoping that we land on a manager who is both talented enough to get the club performing to a respectable degree, whilst being a decent enough bloke which enables the likes of me to begin identifying with the club again? All the while being enough of a patsy to ensure that he doesn't upset the applecart and is unbendingly loyal to his paymasters? Sorry, like, but that manager doesn't exist. There's no silver bullet which means both me and Mike Ashley are both totally content. You get Rafas or you get Bruces. Or completely useless ones that work for no one, like McClaren. I hope Bruce stays exactly where he is until the new owners come in; cannot be remotely fucked in another three years of pretending. Fully agree. It's why whilst I want Bruce to fucking drop dead and be replaced by literally anyone at this stage I don't think the likes of Howe are the answer. The takeover happens, we'll want the manager changed. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making a theoretically progressive appointment like Howe would be very frustrating with Ashley still the owner. Oh, I see, so you actually want your most important employee to be talented/interesting/honest/exciting after all, do you? What about the extremely decorated manager - who not only got results but who also grasped, identified with, and sold the identity of the club - you let walk away for nowt? Fuck it. What exactly are we supposed to be hoping for here, re a change in manager? Are we hoping that we land on a manager who is both talented enough to get the club performing to a respectable degree, whilst being a decent enough bloke which enables the likes of me to begin identifying with the club again? All the while being enough of a patsy to ensure that he doesn't upset the applecart and is unbendingly loyal to his paymasters? Sorry, like, but that manager doesn't exist. There's no silver bullet which means both me and Mike Ashley are both totally content. You get Rafas or you get Bruces. Or completely useless ones that work for no one, like McClaren. I hope Bruce stays exactly where he is until the new owners come in; cannot be remotely fucked in another three years of pretending. I just want to be able to support Newcastle United. So do I, mate, and I believe that that's ultimately my point. I don't want to be lied to with another Rafa. I want the club to be honest about what it is; and Bruce replacing Rafa was the biggest admission of what we are: a club pretending to be a club... until new owners come and we can all get back what we want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Great post Yorkie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMTTS Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 "Wuh got wa backsides kicked, we'll hadda roll up wah sleeves, dust ourselves doon and get back to basics." What is this? Are you from Newcastle? Very RTG-esque behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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