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Mick Lowes is currently doing a podcast with Wraith and he said its the beginning of the end when it comes to that and Bruce should be foaming if the club have done it above his head

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Mick Lowes is currently doing a podcast with Wraith and he said its the beginning of the end when it comes to that and Bruce should be foaming if the club have done it above his head

 

I'm sure he will be foaming but if it's a move designed to force Bruce out, I think Ashley is underestimating the extent of his patsyness.

 

Such a corking way to run a club. Totally normal. Good, honest, true footballing intentions all over the shop. :smitten:

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You have to think they will be considering sacking Bruce at this point. Especially if they have this fella from Bournemouth coming in.

 

In fact, I think Bruce might walk. Hes clearly lost the dressing room and support from fans.

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Given the talk of a third assistant manager coming in, is there a chance Martinez has thrown his hat in the ring for a temporary appointment before the Euros?

 

I know it’s clutching, but even Ashley wouldn’t think someone sacked from Luton was the answer surely?

 

I was thinking more Jones coming first to help steady things, get to know the squad with Martinez following him after the Euros. I seriously doubt it though and a huge gamble.

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You have to think they will be considering sacking Bruce at this point. Especially if they have this fella from Bournemouth coming in.

 

In fact, I think Bruce might walk. Hes clearly lost the dressing room and support from fans.

 

If he had an ounce of self-respect and decency he'd resign.That's why it won't happen like.

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Not unexpected - am sure Ashley has done this before. What it does tell us, is that Bruce is probably going nowhere in the short term. They are drawing the wagons in around him, to provide cover.

 

We deserve to be relegated. What a poxy club.

 

Absolutely. It's all so pathetic honestly.

 

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Bruce only really does well in places with really low expectations - Hull, Blues, Wigan.

 

Anywhere with bigger expectations (us, you, Sunderland) and he fails. One reason for that is he isn't the biggest personality in the club, the back-slapping geeing up the lads and hoping for the best will not work.

 

The knock on effect of that is he very quickly becomes defensive - it's the fans' fault. We had that loads - easily the biggest budget and wage bill in the championship, easily the best squad, playing grindingly awful football that got shown up by any team who pass it a bit - it's just that there aren't many teams who play that way in the championship so he gets away with it.

 

Under him in the championship, I remember Brentford (under Smith) coming to our place and absolutely playing us off the park, it was like they were from a different planet in terms of playing style, we looked like an absolute anachronism.

 

I remember thinking - stay with me on this - we were a bit like the French army in 1940. Totally ready and equipped to fight the war - the first world war. We had just stood still and although he ground out enough results to keep us there or thereabouts, you saw in the play off final against Fulham, we were no match for a footballing side.

 

It is absolutely nothing to do with the demands of the fans at your place, the result would be the same at pretty much any club in the top flight.

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I'll be gutted if we do but fluking a result against Leeds would not surprise me because despite the quality in their play and movement they do look vulnerable, almost naïve at times

 

Tend to agree, but then I remember we have absolutely no goal threat.

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Bruce only really does well in places with really low expectations - Hull, Blues, Wigan.

 

Anywhere with bigger expectations (us, you, Sunderland) and he fails. One reason for that is he isn't the biggest personality in the club, the back-slapping geeing up the lads and hoping for the best will not work.

 

The knock on effect of that is he very quickly becomes defensive - it's the fans' fault. We had that loads - easily the biggest budget and wage bill in the championship, easily the best squad, playing grindingly awful football that got shown up by any team who pass it a bit - it's just that there aren't many teams who play that way in the championship so he gets away with it.

 

Under him in the championship, I remember Brentford (under Smith) coming to our place and absolutely playing us off the park, it was like they were from a different planet in terms of playing style, we looked like an absolute anachronism.

 

I remember thinking - stay with me on this - we were a bit like the French army in 1940. Totally ready and equipped to fight the war - the first world war. We had just stood still and although he ground out enough results to keep us there or thereabouts, you saw in the play off final against Fulham, we were no match for a footballing side.

 

It is absolutely nothing to do with the demands of the fans at your place, the result would be the same at pretty much any club in the top flight.

 

 

That's such an accurate summation of Bruce's career it's almost painful to read. I still think Pardew is from the same mould, absolutely nothing beyond the self promotion and reputation built decades ago. I don't even think Bruce is a championship manager, there are probably loads of managers in the lower divisions who would do a better job given the same resources.

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Bruce only really does well in places with really low expectations - Hull, Blues, Wigan.

 

Anywhere with bigger expectations (us, you, Sunderland) and he fails. One reason for that is he isn't the biggest personality in the club, the back-slapping geeing up the lads and hoping for the best will not work.

 

The knock on effect of that is he very quickly becomes defensive - it's the fans' fault. We had that loads - easily the biggest budget and wage bill in the championship, easily the best squad, playing grindingly awful football that got shown up by any team who pass it a bit - it's just that there aren't many teams who play that way in the championship so he gets away with it.

 

Under him in the championship, I remember Brentford (under Smith) coming to our place and absolutely playing us off the park, it was like they were from a different planet in terms of playing style, we looked like an absolute anachronism.

 

I remember thinking - stay with me on this - we were a bit like the French army in 1940. Totally ready and equipped to fight the war - the first world war. We had just stood still and although he ground out enough results to keep us there or thereabouts, you saw in the play off final against Fulham, we were no match for a footballing side.

 

It is absolutely nothing to do with the demands of the fans at your place, the result would be the same at pretty much any club in the top flight.

 

As usual, a great post.

 

You’re literally the only thing I like about Aston Villa.

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I reckon the decision making processes at the top of our club are terrible. I dont mean the actual decisions (we already knew they were terrible). I mean the hoops that you have to jump through to convince Ashley of making a change, signing a check, making a transfer etc. Its bad enough when you have someone completely unqualified in Charnley, being advised by the spawn of satan in Keith Bishop, but to actually form a coherent plan and get it signed off by the boss must be almost impossible.

 

I imagine its returning to the bunker with an escape plan, only to realise that the fuhrer has lost his mind and cant see the russian artillery on the horizon.

 

Not only are the decisions terrible but even getting a decision seems a fucking chore with these lot.

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If its not Bruce who made the decision on Greame Jones, then who is in Mike Ashley's ear trying to add to Bruce's backroom staff? Surely both Ashley and Charnley's football knwwledge is not that deep to pluck a coach from a Championship side? I mean, is it the same bloke who advised Ashley to waste his money paying compensation to Sheff Wednesday to get this c*** here in the first place? Must be Bishop?

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