Abra Dubravka Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Didn't Wigan replace Bruce with Martinez way back? Wheres this talk of Martinez coming from anyway, he's Belgium manager heading to Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Martinez is the wrong man in my opinion. He sets his teams up to play out from the back. That takes time and we don’t have time. We just need a motivator in short term. Has Ray Hudson ever managed? I would be floored if Martinez would be willing to drop Belgium for us lol. He only signed a contract extension last year to the end of 2022. They have World Cup qualifiers in March too. If he was actually lined up for here, I imagine it would be after the Euros with Jones doing recon and taking some instruction from him prior. Still a long shot I would think. Didn't Wigan replace Bruce with Martinez way back? Wheres this talk of Martinez coming from anyway, he's Belgium manager heading to Euros Rationalizing why we identified and paid money for Jones to come on board. Then a bit of guesswork lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Didn't Wigan replace Bruce with Martinez way back? Wheres this talk of Martinez coming from anyway, he's Belgium manager heading to Euros I’m thinking after the Euros in that case, although I can’t really see it happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Didn't Wigan replace Bruce with Martinez way back? Wheres this talk of Martinez coming from anyway, he's Belgium manager heading to Euros They did, when Bruce left Wigan for Sunderland in 2009. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Are there any facts as behind why he's been appointed? All seems a bit too tinfoil hat to think it some master plan to appoint him to undermine Bruce. Could legitimately see Bruce saying he wants a new face in his coaching team, and it's not that far fetched Jones would be one of a few names Bruce probably suggested. His appointment shortly followed Bruce coming out saying 'he's doing it his way now'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Loads of wild speculation that he is coming in to replace Bruce, as a stop gap until Martinez/Rafa take over, to undermine Bruce and force him to quit etc. etc. But in reality, none of that is as likely as a throw of the dice by Ashley to allow Bruce to continue and keep us in 17th. If Bruce was even remotely close to being canned, why make this move? Dawson is highly regarded internally and will likely be promoted to caretaker manager in the event of Bruce leaving. Makes no sense to have this appointment other than to try and support Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Newcastle are a shell of a club that is ran on a shoestring, our caretaker manager if Bruce goes was the groundsman, Charnley or Shola, we now have a bloke that could take over for a short period, I just dont understand the fanfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I'm behind whichever manager comes in under a new regime; don't care who it is providing they've been appointed based on sound football logic, with the intention of helping to make the club the best it can be. Whoever is the manager under Ashley is either an idiot or just grateful for a job (or both), and they can basically get fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Incredible how low our expectations have fallen when some actually seem interested and enthused by this Jones c***. It would be an even bigger embarrassment than kinnear if/when this failed luton manager becomes Newcastle manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I'm behind whichever manager comes in under a new regime; don't care who it is providing they've been appointed based on sound football logic, with the intention of helping to make the club the best it can be. Whoever is the manager under Ashley is either an idiot or just grateful for a job (or both), and they can basically get f***ed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Incredible how low our expectations have fallen when some actually seem interested and enthused by this Jones cunt. It would be an even bigger embarrassment that kinnear if/when this failed luton manager becomes Newcastle manager. No it wouldn’t. And I don’t think anyone is excited about Jones, we just want Bruce out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I won’t pretend to know everything about him, but calling him a ‘failed manager’ because of a part-season at Luton is a bit unfair. In the 9 games after he left: Luton won 4, drew 4 and lost 1. In the 9 games before he left: Luton won 4, drew 1 and lost 3. They were already on the ‘road to recovery’ before he left. He was nowhere near a failure with a club who were predicted to finish 24th. He also left due to financial pressures at Luton and not due to his performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I won’t pretend to know everything about him, but calling him a ‘failed manager’ because of a part-season at Luton is a bit unfair. In the 9 games after he left: Luton won 4, drew 4 and lost 1. In the 9 games before he left: Luton won 4, drew 2 and lost 3. They were already on the ‘road to recovery’ before he left. He was nowhere near a failure with a club who were predicted to finish 24th. He also left due to financial pressures at Luton and not due to his performance. Was supposed to be ‘drew 2’* in the 9 before he left. It won’t let me edit it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Liam Kennedy said apart from all signs he’s had info that Jones was selected by someone else and it was forced upon Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Liam Kennedy said apart from all signs he’s had info that Jones was selected by someone else and it was forced upon Bruce Of course it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 How much of a say will Jones have? Can't see Mr 500 stubborn Cabbage allowing some stranger to influence anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 would love it if the press conference duties were taken over by Jones, with Bruce sat next to him not allowed to butt in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 How much of a say will Jones have? Can't see Mr 500 stubborn Cabbage allowing some stranger to influence anything. The guy's fucking spineless and lazy, of course he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So are Burnley above us because they have better players or better management? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So are Burnley above us because they have better players or better management? It's such a silly argument isn't it We have the worst manager in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So either Jones has been brought in to soon be caretaker manager, or he's a handover to Martinez. Hopefully we're in the endgame, anyway. I reckon Ashley believe he'll be gone in a few weeks, so paying off Bruce can be the Saudis' problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I won’t pretend to know everything about him, but calling him a ‘failed manager’ because of a part-season at Luton is a bit unfair. In the 9 games after he left: Luton won 4, drew 4 and lost 1. In the 9 games before he left: Luton won 4, drew 2 and lost 3. They were already on the ‘road to recovery’ before he left. He was nowhere near a failure with a club who were predicted to finish 24th. He also left due to financial pressures at Luton and not due to his performance. Was supposed to be ‘drew 2’* in the 9 before he left. It won’t let me edit it. It will. The little pencil and paper icon bottom right of your post, to modify message in-line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So either Jones has been brought in to soon be caretaker manager, or he's a handover to Martinez. Hopefully we're in the endgame, anyway. I reckon Ashley believe he'll be gone in a few weeks, so paying off Bruce can be the Saudis' problem. Is it April again!? People go on like Ashley has to personally pay Bruce off out his own pocket! It will only be a couple of million quid and it will be out the clubs money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So either Jones has been brought in to soon be caretaker manager, or he's a handover to Martinez. Hopefully we're in the endgame, anyway. I reckon Ashley believe he'll be gone in a few weeks, so paying off Bruce can be the Saudis' problem. Is it April again!? People go on like Ashley has to personally pay Bruce off out his own pocket! It will only be a couple of million quid and it will be out the clubs money. Said the same about a week or so ago. Really irritates me the way it's constantly phrased by the media and even fans like its Mike's own money. No other team is spoken about in this way. Also £1million should be nothing money to a Premier league team in 2021, especially when the cost if we are relegated is so much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I can’t see Bruce taking any advice from someone else. You’d need a modicum of intelligence to listen and take advice on board and he has none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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