STM Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bruce and McLaren are the total opposites. McClaren was well known for being decent with the cones and had a decent knowledge of the game. He was just a complete wet paper bag with no man management or motivation skills. Bruce, on the other hand, is a "mans man" like Souness, all motivation and "in the trenches" craic, with no real skill or knowledge of the modern game. I noticed against Leicester on new years day, Bruce was straight over to Rodgers, "all the best", he said referring to the new year, shaking his hand like a long lost brother. It might seem picking at little things but to me Bruce has no game face. The opposition is your enemy, as far as I'm concerned, until after the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDamme Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Joelinton should never put on a Newcastle Utd shirt again, too many opportunities, sell for £5 mill and be shot of him. He makes Muto a better option! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 There are some on here that are so desperate for him to prove he is genuinely a 40 million pound player that they actually can not or will not admit this player is rubbish. How many times do you want to see him play for goodness sake? I'm not trying to sound clever and so much the wise one but I had him sussed after 5 games. This bloke has NEVER or will EVER be a centre forward/number 9. A big bloke but a hopeless header of a ball, does not hold up play well at all (I can't believe some posters on here that think otherwise), does not run the channels and his movement inside the 18 yard box is non existent. He is not a goal poacher and he has no turn of speed. Do you need any more proof? He has 1 goal for God's sake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am genuinely disappointed by the quality of comments here. I won’t waste time to defend for Joelinton but if you are criticising how shit Bruce tactics is then you shouldn’t blame any players who could not perform. Asking Joelinton to do Carroll’s job is just fucking insane. And the fact we are playing a tactic that requires Carroll to shine worths to be relegated. Feel free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am genuinely disappointed by the quality of comments here. I won’t waste time to defend for Joelinton but if you are criticising how shit Bruce tactics is then you shouldn’t blame any players who could not perform. Asking Joelinton to do Carroll’s job is just fucking insane. And the fact we are playing a tactic that requires Carroll to shine worths to be relegated. Feel free. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to see this, but just let them vent man. It's so interesting because I look at Firmino, who Joelinton was compared to in Germany, and everyone loves him now, but he has grown into the excellent player he is. He also clearly benefits from a system that allows him to drop into space and create for both Mane and Salah. It's perfect for him. Do you really think if Firmino had come to this ridiculous club he would be what he is now? Or anything even remotely close. Even if Liverpool gave us Firmino right now do you think he would be upfront alone in our system doing what he does for Liverpool? The whole thing just makes me laugh. Let's wait and see if anyone will ever perform for this joke of a manager. I really hope we get Giroud like a lot of people are hoping, so I can have a good laugh when he's up front for us looking ridiculous too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 There's merit in Joelinton being incorrectly utilised and just generally shite like. He's as flat footed as I've seen a striker, doesn't follow shots in or gamble on anything in the box. If he had those instincts he'd have scored a couple more by now, even despite Bruce's neanderthal tactics and trying to use him as a battering ram when he's not suited to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 yeah as always two things can be true at the same time, thing is we know bruce is proven garbage but 6 months is no time to declare any player new to a league/country finished is alls i'd say doesn't look a natural goalscorer/no 9 to me, which isn't his fault if we've bought him to be one, but that doesn't mean under competent coaching we can't ever find a role for him that he'll thrive in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aye, he's definitely not a no. 9, I think there's some talent there though and in the right setup he could be a useful player. Never worth £40m though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 yeah well, guess we'll never get to the bottom of that fee like actually will we when the accounts come out? that'll break down the details of the deal surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Don't they come out something like 18 months after the season ends (or something stupid like that)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Don't they come out something like 18 months after the season ends (or something stupid like that)? pends if mike's got something to hide, if he has then he'll delay the accounts again and take the £20 hit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 That chance he missed at the weekend was horrendous, he done well to make the space to get the shot off but I'm pretty sure that not once did he even glance up to see where the goal was. I know most forwards have the instinct and 'know where the goal is' but christ, it gets worse every time you want it. It looked harder to miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Bruce being a shit manager doesn’t detract from the player’s inability to shoot properly, lead the line or put in some real effort. He obviously lacks confidence right now and his head drops easily. But anyone with something about them will keep going. Look at Miggy. Joelinton will go down as the biggest flop in our history, sadly, it’s all too predictable because he is never a centre-froward, never a 40m player and should never have been signed in the first place. Rafa and Rondon was of course the obvious investment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am genuinely disappointed by the quality of comments here. I won’t waste time to defend for Joelinton but if you are criticising how shit Bruce tactics is then you shouldn’t blame any players who could not perform. Asking Joelinton to do Carroll’s job is just fucking insane. And the fact we are playing a tactic that requires Carroll to shine worths to be relegated. Feel free. Insane comment. He can't strike a ball properly FFS. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am genuinely disappointed by the quality of comments here. I won’t waste time to defend for Joelinton but if you are criticising how shit Bruce tactics is then you shouldn’t blame any players who could not perform. Asking Joelinton to do Carroll’s job is just fucking insane. And the fact we are playing a tactic that requires Carroll to shine worths to be relegated. Feel free. Insane comment. He can't strike a ball properly FFS. :lol: i mean i agree to an extent to but you have to put that down to confidence surely, there's no way he's got to where he has in world football if he's completely unable to kick a football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aye, he's definitely not a no. 9 yep. a jon dahl tomasson for our age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aye, he's definitely not a no. 9 yep. a jon dahl tomasson for our age. JDT was a good player though. Would have been great alongside Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aye, he's definitely not a no. 9 yep. a jon dahl tomasson for our age. JDT was a good player though. Would have been great alongside Shearer. Yeah I always thought he was a good finisher, just wasn't cut out for Dalglish's system of playing four defensive midfielders across the park. Another horrible manager, and we seem to employ most of them at one time or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aye, he's definitely not a no. 9, I think there's some talent there though and in the right setup he could be a useful player. Never worth £40m though What makes you think theres talent there please tell because I've seen nothing in this fella that I haven't seen in a lad that plays in the northern league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 That chance he missed at the weekend was horrendous, he done well to make the space to get the shot off but I'm pretty sure that not once did he even glance up to see where the goal was. I know most forwards have the instinct and 'know where the goal is' but christ, it gets worse every time you want it. It looked harder to miss. Was absolutely embarrassing just like when he headed it clean out of play. The people on here making excuses for him are as embarrassing as that shot. The lad cant kick or head a ball properly hes honestly no better than lads operating at league 2 or non league level. Played against Rochdale yet was shown how to do it by 40yr old Aaron Wilbrahamn This transfer should be investigated as something is very very wrong with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 look, he'd just finished a reasonable season playing the in the bundesliga man can we stop suggesting this is like when fergie signed that homeless kid or summit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I know it's not what the mongs want to hear, but in the first half he got in some good positions to score. That's an improvement even if he missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a propheteer Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I wish people would stop spouting the 40m line when it's obvious there's no way we paid that for him or ever valued him as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I know it's not what the mongs want to hear, but in the first half he got in some good positions to score. That's an improvement even if he missed. Classy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 'Mongs' settle down man. People realise a lot of it's down to how he being used etc but there's still no excusing how bad he's been at times. I've never been a big fan but kept relatively quiet about him, but that miss on saturday, I just can't get my head round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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