Success at what cost?

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

Important point but I'm seeing something quite disgusting in this and other threads relating to the takeover.

 

Can people PLEASE stop putting an apostrophe in "Saudis" when talking about multiple Saudi people?

 

"Saudi's", with an apostrophe, indicates something belongs to a single person or entity called Saudi, for example "This is Saudi's pen", where the pen belongs to Saudi. Writing "We're being taken over by Saudi's" is nonsensical and offensive to my eyes.

 

Thanks.

 

Same with Neesy just slotting "etc" in everywhere when it's not needed.

 

Don't think I haven't noticed.

[Guest neesy111]

Important point but I'm seeing something quite disgusting in this and other threads relating to the takeover.

 

Can people PLEASE stop putting an apostrophe in "Saudis" when talking about multiple Saudi people?

 

"Saudi's", with an apostrophe, indicates something belongs to a single person or entity called Saudi, for example "This is Saudi's pen", where the pen belongs to Saudi. Writing "We're being taken over by Saudi's" is nonsensical and offensive to my eyes.

 

Thanks.

 

Same with Neesy just slotting "etc" in everywhere when it's not needed.

 

Don't think I haven't noticed.

 

[thomas]

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

Important point but I'm seeing something quite disgusting in this and other threads relating to the takeover.

 

Can people PLEASE stop putting an apostrophe in "Saudis" when talking about multiple Saudi people?

 

"Saudi's", with an apostrophe, indicates something belongs to a single person or entity called Saudi, for example "This is Saudi's pen", where the pen belongs to Saudi. Writing "We're being taken over by Saudi's" is nonsensical and offensive to my eyes.

 

Thanks.

 

Same with Neesy just slotting "etc" in everywhere when it's not needed.

 

Don't think I haven't noticed.

 

Hahaha fuck you etc

 

FYP.

[Deuce]

Important point but I'm seeing something quite disgusting in this and other threads relating to the takeover.

 

Can people PLEASE stop putting an apostrophe in "Saudis" when talking about multiple Saudi people?

 

"Saudi's", with an apostrophe, indicates something belongs to a single person or entity called Saudi, for example "This is Saudi's pen", where the pen belongs to Saudi. Writing "We're being taken over by Saudi's" is nonsensical and offensive to my eyes.

 

Thanks.

 

Same with Neesy just slotting "etc" in everywhere when it's not needed.

 

Don't think I haven't noticed.

 

 

[NEEJ]

Interesting read this:

 

Aye. I think that's a very well-reasoned take.

[Deuce]

Interesting read this:

 

 

Creased at the thought of Blyth Spartans taking ad money from North Korea. I’m not sure who comes out the more pathetic of the two.

[Disco]

Interesting read this:

 

 

Creased at the thought of Blyth Spartans taking ad money from North Korea. I’m not sure who comes out the more pathetic of the two.

 

It wasn’t actual NK, just a specialist tour operator - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/28/shared-goals-blyth-spartans-football-team-partners-with-visit-north-korea

 

The Blyth social media team did some canny videos using the NK news woman IIRC.

[Tiresias]

Yeah agree with that mostly. I think people have been blinded by all the bullshit to the fact it is absolutely wrong for our club to be used, and it is being used, to make a nation state palatable. In some ways it doesn't even matter what the state is, this should be about football and clubs should not be pawns of inter national power jostling.

 

The thing is though us fans have no power over who owns our club. That is an evil that is to blame with the league which could demand it, sporting governance in general, the government who could demand it and capitalism I guess. All huge forces, and of course I wish that all fans could mobilize, if everyone insisted and refused sky and the clubs business reform would have to happen but that will never ever happen. Asking fans to stay away will achieve little and again is asking fans to take on a moral burden they don't deserve, they are powerless.

 

What can be done is trying to counter the sport washing by trying to keep and spread awareness of the awful deeds of those in charge. This goes for everyone for the whatabouters. We all use services, pay for goods with dubious moral worth but awareness doesn't hurt and then at least a reasoned decision can be made. The Saudi government may get plenty to think oh they must be modern they own a club, but quite frankly it's a sign of a bit of unnecessary insecurity really. If Amnesty get some attention, get some funding because of that that can help too.

 

What it comes down to, of course people are outraged, I am not going to get upset at people saying how awful it is a club is being bought by Saudi Arabia, I am nto sure there is some southern media bias or out tbh there are some awful journos though. Some of them need to remember the Saudi's havent come out of the blue, bribed their way past stringent regulations designed to keep football about the fans and inserted themself into some friendly fan run league. The Premier League has always been heading to this point, in fact this is the whole point of the league, to get money money money involved with the very smallest of morals involved. What a carnival of greed at the expense of fans the league is and it is outrageous to get this far. Let's not forget that if football wasn't such a over the top massive pyramid scheme of greed we could all own our own clubs, the cost of being in the league wouldn't be so mad as for us to need huge investment as such and the football could be as good, but of course all the leagues have to compete with each other and here we are.

[Superior Acuña]

Seeing Jamal Khashoggi's widow just has it in for the toon now 'n all.

[Troll]

Seeing Jamal Khashoggi's widow just has it in for the toon now 'n all.

 

Not surprised, heard rumours she's a massive lads fan.

[Guest The Little Waster]

Anyone gonna have the balls to protest the new owners if it goes badly wrong? Don’t think I’d fancy it

 

Of course they wont .

[thomas]

not to be cynical or mocking but it's comical how no one expected anything from the PL in terms of fit & proper, and we got nothing, and it's still disappointing

 

 

[St1pe]

Interesting read this:

 

Aye. I think that's a very well-reasoned take.

 

I read a lot of those links he’s posted as well and I’m now feeling more ropey about this again. This also feels like as a fan my last roll of the dice to get rid of Ashley and stay interested in the club.

[Kid Icarus]

Anyone gonna have the balls to protest the new owners if it goes badly wrong? Don’t think I’d fancy it

 

I think it would be more that it would be a complete waste of time. Ashley's universally despised by our fans and we still couldn't convince people to do what it would take to get rid of him. It took Rafa being replaced with Bruce for a significant amount to finally walk away.

[Rafalove]

That was a compelling read. Are we actually as helpless as we think? Clearly we have no say over who owns us but What would stop us from having a banner of Jamal Kashoggi?

[Geordie Ahmed]

That was a compelling read. Are we actually as helpless as we think? Clearly we have no say over who owns us but What would stop us from having a banner of Jamal Kashoggi?

 

As an individual probably nothing but a banner of significant size then probably the stewards

 

I really can't see anyone wanting to do that though we might see protests outside the ground from people

[Deuce]

That was a compelling read. Are we actually as helpless as we think? Clearly we have no say over who owns us but What would stop us from having a banner of Jamal Kashoggi?

 

As an individual probably nothing but a banner of significant size then probably the stewards

 

I really can't see anyone wanting to do that though we might see protests outside the ground from people

 

Welcome back man

[BlueStar]

That was a compelling read. Are we actually as helpless as we think? Clearly we have no say over who owns us but What would stop us from having a banner of Jamal Kashoggi?

 

As an individual probably nothing but a banner of significant size then probably the stewards

 

I really can't see anyone wanting to do that though we might see protests outside the ground from people

 

I mean, you could make it constructive criticism.  "THANKS FOR INVESTING IN OUR CLUB, PLEASE STOP MURDERING JOURNALISTS AND PERSECUTING HOMOSEXUALS"

[Geordie Ahmed]

That was a compelling read. Are we actually as helpless as we think? Clearly we have no say over who owns us but What would stop us from having a banner of Jamal Kashoggi?

 

As an individual probably nothing but a banner of significant size then probably the stewards

 

I really can't see anyone wanting to do that though we might see protests outside the ground from people

 

Welcome back man

 

Thanks, the potential takeover has me excited 

[xLiaaamx]

I'm weak. I'm selfish. I just don't have the strength to protest this, to put the club back in the hands of its abuser who's tried to cling onto it for dear life. Who'd only abuse it even more if he now had to keep it.

[ElDiablo]

I don't think I've got the energy to be arsed too much about this. Going to try and just focus on the positives for the club and city.

[GM]

Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed. I'm just playing catch-up with all this and stumbled on this excellent thread on Twitter by Joelinton Travel Tavern, and when I say excellent, I really do mean it...

 

[ElDiablo]

Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed. I'm just playing catch-up with all this and stumbled on this excellent thread on Twitter by Joelinton Travel Tavern, and when I say excellent, I really do mean it...

 

 

That articulates very well how I'm feeling about this. The whole structure is rotten, why should I expend anymore energy pushing back? Just put some decent football in front of my eyeballs.

[Collage]

Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed. I'm just playing catch-up with all this and stumbled on this excellent thread on Twitter by Joelinton Travel Tavern, and when I say excellent, I really do mean it...

 

 

 

But yeah, it’s great.