TRon Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, SEMTEX said: I mean, 25m isn't a wild fee these days and I think plenty of clubs gamble that kind of money. Basically anyone other than the top 6 I could see potentially being interested. Everton Villa Leeds West Ham. Plenty of teams that would take 25m punts on promising players imo. Exactly. It's not a huge fee for a player his age, I think the main thing putting other teams off is maybe they want a midfielder who puts his foot in a bit more. But that's more important for teams who want to play pressing football, for us he's probably a very decent signing, since we play on the break. The way we play probably makes him look the best he'll be at any team tbh. It's a good move for both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TRon said: Exactly. It's not a huge fee for a player his age, I think the main thing putting other teams off is maybe they want a midfielder who puts his foot in a bit more. But that's more important for teams who want to play pressing football, for us he's probably a very decent signing, since we play on the break. The way we play probably makes him look the best he'll be at any team tbh. It's a good move for both sides. I really hope* Bruce will just accept what we are now and stop bullshitting about trying to change the style. There's no shame in being a counter-attacking team and we're well setup for it with ASM, Wilson, Almiron & now Willock. Would rather they focus on being good at it instead of him pissing about with formations and bollocks to try and "open up". Play 352/532 and do it well, could easily make the top half if fitness goes your way. *I mean I don't give a shit anymore but you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: I really hope* Bruce will just accept what we are now and stop bullshitting about trying to change the style. There's no shame in being a counter-attacking team and we're well setup for it with ASM, Wilson, Almiron & now Willock. Would rather they focus on being good at it instead of him pissing about with formations and bollocks to try and "open up". Play 352/532 and do it well, could easily make the top half if fitness goes your way. *I mean I don't give a shit anymore but you know I actually thought Bruce was always happy to sit back and defend, except it doesn't work when you are missing key players like ASM and Wilson ( pre-Willock). I was under the impression that it was Jones who tried to make us a more pressing team, but again, that only works if you have really dynamic midfielders, and...well Bruce wants to play Shelvey.... I think Jones was probably the one who looked at the players we had, and made a decisive choice that this is the best way to play them. Bruce even trying to switch to 'his way' and just hoping it would work sums him up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 The good old “leave it late so they think it’s the best signing ever” tactic coming off again. Great mask to the fact we’ve not strengthened at all. Pleased he’s coming back, but all it does us keep us standing still and he’ll be flogged at the first opportunity. Another season ahead of trying to win the bottom half with three decent players and dreadful football played by a throughly dislikable manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 He didn’t sign straight away. Fully expecting the big bairn Bruce to be in massive huff with him and have him benched for weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Probably sell ASM now to cover the cost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, SEMTEX said: Couldn't be arsed to work out how to change to pounds, but.... All big fees with certain types of risks imo. They had the benefit of knowing they were going to get £100m, mind. Leicester & Brighton (who got £50m for a player themselves) are still the only other clubs outside the Premier League darlings to pay more than £20m for a single player this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: They had the benefit of knowing they were going to get £100m, mind. Leicester & Brighton (who got £50m for a player themselves) are still the only other clubs outside the Premier League darlings to pay more than £20m for a single player this summer. So about half the league then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Thought West Ham would be in, or is Lingard still expected to go back? Could imagine Rafa loving him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nobody said: So about half the league then. Yep and the other half seem to have nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 You have to take ya hat off to Ashley, selling the club , still willing to part with £25m for Willock doesn’t have to? could sell ASM if he’s such a cunt? he could just liquidate us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Interesting questions put to me today . I just said nah, he’s a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 He may be flying the plane directly into the mountain but at least he let the crew serve drinks first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 The new Rob Lee ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toon25 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 There's no way in this universe that Jonjo Shelvey will not be start every game that he's 'fit' to play. Big Steve fucking loves the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Jones could do something with a midfield like that, hopefully. As Bruce doesn't do tactics and Jones has "a little input" I see little reason how it could go wrong. Bruce I think still has final say though on teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Jones could do something with a midfield like that, hopefully. As Bruce doesn't do tactics and Jones has "a little input" I see little reason how it could go wrong. Bruce I think still has final say though on teams Not sure Almiron is a midfielder or ASM is a striker TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Bruce has played a 3-5-2 since the Brighton game which coincided with our best run of the season, so I assume he's wanting to stick with that formation. ASM was almost always up front alongside a more contemporary forward. Different from 19/20 where it seemed he was more on the wing as you'd expect. https://fbref.com/en/players/2b16cb1a/matchlogs/2020-2021/summary/Allan-Saint-Maximin-Match-Logs Miggy was played in the midfield trio usually during that run mostly. That last game against Fulham it was him and ASM up top https://fbref.com/en/players/862a1c15/matchlogs/2020-2021/summary/Miguel-Almiron-Match-Logs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HawK Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Well done to Lee Charnley for ensuring that not a penny on wages has been wasted in completion of this deal. Your SD gift card should be in the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Has he made the cut off point? He’s going to be sub the first 3-4 games anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 He's going to make a fantastic understudy to Shelvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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