Pons Alias Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Part of me wonders if nobody will touch the job. Edited March 22, 2021 by Pons Alias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Why would you keep a man in a job that doesn’t want to be there, ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, 54 said: well said bonny lad. and calmly done without an insult in sight. hopefully Bruce or one his cronies was listening. hopefully we'll also get comments from bbc "experts" Savage and Sutton about this fan's unlrealistic expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, toon25 said: Why would you keep a man in a job that doesn’t want to be there, ffs They’re not going to pay him off to leave. They don’t mind relegation, it’s a viable option. He wants to go, the players want him to go but the board are intent on seeing this out so just sit back and enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I understand that, but he obviously has some business nous to get where he has in the world. He's left two subordinates in charge of the club who have little to no football experience. He obviously doesn't value industry knowledge particularly highly. I think its bollocks he doesn't care about the status of the club though. The club is at it's most profitable when it's in the PL, that's why his ultimate aim is to stay there. He has always tried to do the bare minimum to keep us in the league and the only real spending he's done has been when we've been in danger or when in the division below. Ultimately maybe it's his and his employees lack of football knowledge that is to blame. It's obvious he dislikes the fans and likes to get the odd dig in, but its simply not true to say he doesn't care about the status of the club. That's what makes it all rather confusing. This is where we disagree - I believe he doesn't care about the profitability of the club at all. There have been no efforts during his ownership to grow revenue streams, which is backed up by year after year of accounts data. Everything is obfuscated to try to confuse. The reason for this football club to exist is to promote Sports Direct. It can do it much better in the PL than in the Championship. However, he is probably the least afraid of relegation he's ever been (if he ever really has been). In his tenure we've been relegated twice, and come back up twice. To him, this means it'll just happen again. The parachute payment will cover some of the losses, but he'd rather take the chance we won't get relegated to not have to pay anything at all. This is the man he is, and he has proved this time and time again. He doesn't want to sell, because he doesn't have to sell. The only scenario he will sell in my view is if all his other ventures finally go tits up and he needs to bail himself out once and for all, or someone comes to him with stupid amounts of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, lovejoy said: got a message saying he was gone and had agreed £1.7m compen, apparently came from an agent. Looks like it was bollocks though, sadly. Probably the same one I got, mine also said Charnley informally contacted Eddie Howe last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Pons Alias said: Part of me wonders if nobody will touch the job. Decent shout but you've got to think Jones would take it on full time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Ashley would happily risk 30 million quid on a gamble to save himself 3 million quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Northerngimp said: Ashley would happily risk 30 million quid on a gamble to save himself 3 million quid. I mean, we know he would do that because he's done it twice before. But it didn't exactly work well the last 2 times though, did it it? Not exactly learning from experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Putting the results aside, it’s the blind fucking ignorance to the utter dross served up week-in week-out that boils my piss. Brighton and Fulham mightn’t be getting results, but the style of football they play has the potential to pay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chris_R said: I mean, we know he would do that because he's done it twice before. But it didn't exactly work well the last 2 times though, did it it? Not exactly learning from experience. We know it doesn't work football wise but Ashely thinks differently to us. He'll be confident that he can retain most of the playing squad and gain promotion again at the first attempt. Then more penny pinching in the premier league until we have another Bruce season again. Then start over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Northerngimp said: Ashley would happily risk 30 million quid on a gamble to save himself 3 million quid. £30m of the club's money. As long as his bank account never takes a hit he's fine. Being in the championship is just a minor inconvenience to him. He doesn't "need" to sell the club. He doesn't "need" to take money out of the club". He doesn't "need" to put money into the club. When the timing is right for him, which it nearly was in 2020, he'll take the money and run. Until then, he doesn't have to even pay any interest into who the manager even is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 It’s been this shit since the day the guy took over. There has never been a game plan or way of playing and that is what infuriates me the most. At least with Rafa, I knew that we would go into a game and would not be getting bummed. Now, our ‘plan’ is that the opposition has an off day and we can luck out points from somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Almost like Jeff Lynne could see into the future 42 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Incognito said: Almost like Jeff Lynne could see into the future 42 years ago I've liked this post for the musical content. It's a great tune and I refuse to let it be ruined by a gout riddled cunt with a BMI of 39.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, deejeck said: I've liked this post for the musical content. It's a great tune and I refuse to let it be ruined by a gout riddled cunt with a BMI of 39.1 I don't have gout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Ren Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, lovejoy said: got a message saying he was gone and had agreed £1.7m compen, apparently came from an agent. Looks like it was bollocks though, sadly. cheers mate, you would like to think common sense would prevail by doing exactly that but we are talking about an Ashley run club surrounded by imbeciles. I really do hope this happens over the next few days it's our only hope to give us a chance of staying up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) His apparent shock at how Brighton played tells you everything about Bruce and our current set up, ignorant and ill prepared. The way he talks about each game as a one off event, ‘on the night Brighton were very very decent’ like he’s never watched them play since they last humiliated his team, he’s just looked at the table and thought we are only 1 point behind them so they must be shite too. And the whole ‘I’m a fighter and I’ll never walk away from the job’ bullshit needs to be challenged by journalists. He’s a fucking snake who’s continuously quit on clubs when he thinks he can better his bank balance. Nice guy Steve, proper football man? Get to fuck. Edited March 22, 2021 by JeffJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Incognito said: I don't have gout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr Jinx said: They’re not going to pay him off to leave. They don’t mind relegation, it’s a viable option. He wants to go, the players want him to go but the board are intent on seeing this out so just sit back and enjoy it. "The board" is one person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) What Ashley seems not to be factoring in at all, is that the last two guys to bring the club back up, he later let go for being too ambitious/not toeing the line. It'd be a weird replay of 2009/10 if Bruce took us down (Kinnear) and then an assistant who was imposed on a manager (Hughton/Jones) then took over in the championship... Edited March 22, 2021 by Pons Alias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 This will make zero difference but it’s a chance for some of the better football minds on here to get their views across to a wider audience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 public pressure cranking up. he's being humiliated and he knows it. his family have to pull him aside and tell him its not worth the aggro. but he wants his payoff. shameless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 disgraceful, as I'm sure his family is telling him to bloody walk and forget about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, let's do it but it is pointless. Yep, pointless and likely to be hijacked by makems. Done it anyway, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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