Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Scoring 5 goals in 2 games and actually creating a fair few chances, is huge. In quite a lot of the games where we've played well and lost 1-0. We weren't actually creating that many chances IMO. I said as much in the Mitrovic thread. But we should have scored 3-4 on Saturday and we had plenty of chances against Man U and we were denied a clear penalty. Still need to sort out our pathetic away form. 5 away goals all season is appalling and we need to turn this around before I start to get quietly confident. Two pretty tough away games coming up, that will hopefully show us if we have turned the corner. Long term conceding one and then (fairly comfotably) seeing out 40 mins might do the whole team confidence more good then cantering to a 3/4 goal victory I'm not sure I get your point here? Maybe I wasn't clear in my post. But I was actually pointing out that it's good that we are now creating chances and scoring goals. Something we've struggled with all season. Not that we should have beat West Ham 4-0 and I'm annoyed we didn't. A win is a win ATM. So long as we keep creating chances and scoring enough to win, I'm not overly arsed. But we haven't really done this on the road, hence the grand total of 5 away goals all season. Sorry, I was adding to your point, not questioning it. For ages we've had a brittle confidence where a 2-0 lead becomes 2-1 and then inevitably 2-2, regardless on how well we've played. Or a 1-0 with 10 mins left is an inevitable 1-1 etc.etc Going 2 up and coasting, giving a goal away but then being pretty comfortable in keeping the lead has to aid the belief in the players that we can hold on to leads, whereas a 4/5/6 nil win is very nice on the day but does nothign to prove to the players that they can grind out a win/keep a lead when necessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The reason I'm worried is the lack of teams that are giving up TBH. Villa are basically down, but have started picking up points. Nobody else is completely out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It will be interesting to see how Swansea do tonight, they look shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 As long as we can put in some more performance last week we'll be fine. Swansea are looking in serious danger of just giving up, Norwich have a horrible run of fixtures and the mackems are just, well... the mackems. Shocked at the resurgence by Bournemouth despite losing Gradel and Wilson, I thought they were well and truly fucked especially after losing to us but fair play to Howe and the rest of them, they're doing exactly what they need to do atm. Aye, Bournemouth are doing what's required but I can easily see them dropping again. As the season goes on they will tire, especially they way they play, and 1 defeat could easily knock them a bit. They have a good chance of staying up, but I would not rule them out being dragged right back into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The reason I'm worried is the lack of teams that are giving up TBH. Villa are basically down, but have started picking up points. Nobody else is completely out of it. Swansea as well maybe. Not so confident about the mackems tbh, they have goals in them with Defoe and they still look to have decent spirit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The reason I'm worried is the lack of teams that are giving up TBH. Villa are basically down, but have started picking up points. Nobody else is completely out of it. Swansea as well maybe. Not so confident about the mackems tbh, they have goals in them with Defoe and they still look to have decent spirit. Yep, they won't beat anyone at the top but they have a chance against everyone else due to Defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Swansea must have a plan like, it can't be "get relegated" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 At this point I'm assuming their plan is to sell all of their assets and then burn the Liberty Stadium to the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 At the moment they appear to be following the Mike Ashley playbook circa 2008/2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I shall wait until we put a run of results together before being confident we can be safe. We need to start beating the poorer teams rather than just raising our game against the top sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I shall wait until we put a run of results together before being confident we can be safe. We need to start beating the poorer teams rather than just raising our game against the top sides. Exactly, 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm not confident we'll be safe by any means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 It depends, if we win one of these two away games (or draw both) then beat West Brom I think we'll probably start to pull away, but I'm expecting 2 losses before a 1-1 with WBA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Win 5 out of 16 and we're almost certainly safe. I think Chelsea will pull ahead into the top half and we'll settle behind Watford/Everton if we're 'lucky' with injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 One thing is for sure, this season the only way to avoid relegation is to look after your own results and forget about other results. All the clubs around the bottom of the league are getting results and fighting for their lives. The ones that aren't are already pretty close to safety like Watford and West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Need 6 wins I think. 39 at least, any less will see us down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 We get a point for drawing games too yee kna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'll admit in my knackered state I forgot to take draws into consideration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bournemouth, Swansea, WBA, and dare I say it Mackems home games will be massive. Norwich and Villa away too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bournemouth, Swansea, WBA, and dare I say it Mackems home games will be massive. Norwich and Villa away too. 13 points please. I thank you; including the sweetest 3 of them all--preferably by a comfortable margin (getting sick of all this tension malarkey). Once again, I thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bournemouth, Swansea, WBA, and dare I say it Mackems home games will be massive. Norwich and Villa away too. 13 points please. I thank you; including the sweetest 3 of them all--preferably by a comfortable margin (getting sick of all this tension malarkey). Once again, I thank you. We have to absolutely, catagorically have no choice but to beat the Mackems, one way or the other it might be our last chance for a while. Not to mention stopping the streak, would absolutely love it if we muller ed them but will settle for a win, any win will do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 A couple of decent performances recently don't change the fact we're still in deep shit. Back in the relegation zone after 22 matches with only Watford and Palace in worse form than NUFC, and they're both well clear of us already. We desperately need to start picking up points on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The relegation battle is shaking out in a pretty standard way in terms of points, even if the results are all over the place. The team averaging 1 point per game are just outside the relegation zone, with the team averaging just under that in 18th place. We need to look after our results and target at least 40 points. If we can get to that total then we should be safe regardless of other results. We can definitely do it if we play the way we have recently and if we get the kind of average points we have over the past ten games or so. It's a disastrous start that has really badly hurt us. The good thing is that we are a team improving, rather than a team in free fall like we were under Carver last year. I was more convinced we were going down last season than I am this season. This weekend was always going to be a tough one to get out of the relegation zone in terms of when all the results were in. Firstly we needed to beat West Ham, which we did well to do. Then we also needed favourable results from games that were more than likely to play out the way they did. Swansea at home against an out of form Watford side and an improving Bournemouth side at home against Norwich. It was why our game against West Ham was almost a must win. We'd be in an awful position if we'd lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ketsbaia Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Well yes, I think we have to trust that if we get to 38-40 points, everything else will average itself out and we'll be fine. We've dragged Norwich right back into this and that could be huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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