Superior Acuña Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I wouldn't even look at the what if's in Rafa's time - i'll point firmly at Stoke (H), Villa (H) and Everton (H) as 3 matches that we ended up with 2 points instead of 7; +5 right now would have been f***ing huge. Maybe if we'd gotten those 5 points McClaren wouldn't have been sacked though, and we'd be about to slip into the relegation zone under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I wouldn't even look at the what if's in Rafa's time - i'll point firmly at Stoke (H), Villa (H) and Everton (H) as 3 matches that we ended up with 2 points instead of 7; +5 right now would have been f***ing huge. Chelsea (H) too, but I agree with the above post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 We have to not lose against City and Liverpool (draws), Beat Palace and Spurs and then Villa away. 11 points will keep us up, anything less and we go down IMO. We are down anyway like, but that's the kind of points total that will keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 We have to not lose against City and Liverpool (draws), Beat Palace and Spurs and then Villa away. 11 points will keep us up, anything less and we go down IMO. We are down anyway like, but that's the kind of points total that will keep us up. tend to agree we need around 11 or 12 points,big ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's a big ask for Norwich & Sunderland to get 8-9 points that would mean we needed that amount too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I've got the mackems getting 7 more (beat Everton and Watford, draw with Arsenal) which leaves us needing 10. Looking very unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 We could be 6 points ahead of Norwich before they next kick a ball with two games remaining after that against a side already relegated and a side that might have 2nd place guaranteed and their stars on an early holiday before the Euros. Yeah. No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The optimism for the mackems to stay up is high on here but I wouldn't be too confident. They were on their way to an unlikely win against Southampton, they threw it away. They were leading against us, and again threw it away. Played well against West Brom but only took a point. Expectedly lost against Leicester before winning against a poor Norwich team. They have screwed themselves a lot and it could just continue tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Norwich and Sunderland are both very poor. We are too, but it's not like they're going to be picking up loads of points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The optimism for the mackems to stay up is high on here but I wouldn't be too confident. They were on their way to an unlikely win against Southampton, they threw it away. They were leading against us, and again threw it away. Played well against West Brom but only took a point. Expectedly lost against Leicester before winning against a poor Norwich team. They have screwed themselves a lot and it could just continue tbh. 1 win out of next 2 games and we will stay up with the remaining games. Big ask though, we would then need to beat palace and win 1 of last 2 with Spurs most likely given we are shit away from home. Bonus for us being at home last game of season with other 2 away. No guarantees the other 2 will win any games but think both may pick up 3-6 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I think it's a big ask to expect any of us to get any points tbf, all of us are down here for a reason and there's gonna be a few twists and turns before the end of the season that's the only certainty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 A massive hill to climb if we want to get out of it, but stranger things and shitter teams have survived in this league before now. A win against Man City or Liverpool is a must imo as we wont get enough points in the other games alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 So in 08/09 after 33 games we were in 19th, 3 points away from 17th. We went on to have a record of the following in the next 5 games- W1 D1 L3 and we still had a chance of survival on the last day of that season. Admittedly there were a lot more teams still involved with a relegation battle at this point in that season,but quite amazed after that kind of form it went to the last day. Every season since then, the teams surviving in 17th had the following points after 38 games. Hull 35 West Ham 35 Wolves 40 QPR 37 Sunderland 39 West Brom 36 Villa 38 We absolutely need 3 wins imo to have a realistic chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 So in 08/09 after 33 games we were in 19th, 3 points away from 17th. We went on to have a record of the following in the next 5 games- W1 D1 L4 and we still had a chance of survival on the last day of that season. Admittedly there were a lot more teams still involved with a relegation battle at this point in that season,but quite amazed after that kind of form it went to the last day. Every season since then, the teams surviving in 17th had the following points after 38 games. Hull 35 West Ham 35 Wolves 40 QPR 37 Sunderland 39 West Brom 36 Villa 38 We absolutely need 3 wins imo to have a realistic chance. Fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Would a win tonight get everyone believing? I can't see it, but should a miracle happen and we win I reckon we'd be favourite to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Oh aye, a win puts us in a great position. It's asking a lot though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 A win tonight and a draw to Liverpool would probably give us the momentum to stay up. Stranger things have happened but not at the Toon. If anything we will probably get humped tonight and against Liverpool, win all the remaining games and go into the final game just needing a draw to stay up but lose 2-1 to a last minute penalty or some shit. Its not the hope that kills you, its the Toon's way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 A win tonight and a draw to Liverpool would probably give us the momentum to stay up. Stranger things have happened but not at the Toon. If anything we will probably get humped tonight and against Liverpool, win all the remaining games and go into the final game just needing a draw to stay up but lose 2-1 to a last minute penalty or some s***. Its not the hope that kills you, its the Toon's way... this in a nutshell. Good things never happen for us (well not in the last 7 years or so) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 6 or 7. I think we'd give Liverpool a good game on Saturday if they pick the same team as at Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 down to an 8... Starting to believe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Graeme Le Saux just said that may not be a big point against Sunderland but is a big point against Norwich because we are on 29 points and they are on 31. I'm now doubting everything I know about life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I feel like we're going to have to beat Spurs on the final day to survive, and they're going to need to beat us to win it. Which is a marked improvement on 1 week ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think we really needed to win that to stand a chance. there's just not enough games left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 cant be mad with a point i thought we were on for a spanking before the start of the game unfortunately it doesnt catch us up to either sunderland or norwich and our game and hand has now been used so we still need to be the in form team of the 3 to stay up and need sunderland to really waste their game in hand. A win tonight would have meant it would be up to others to do the cathing and while we all have different fixtures and possibly more ups and downs to go there are possibly not enough games left to make it a reality down to a 9 which is the lowest I have been for sinse Rafa started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 We're still down in my head, just so I don't get my hopes up and have them crash back down to earth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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