Stifler Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah, it's firmly in our own hands though. If we beat QPR then Hull have to win both of their games, it is possible but the likelihood of it happening is slim, we also have the West Ham match to fall back on but hopefully we don't need it. I'm hoping that we can wrap up safety on Saturday. I'm at work when we play the final game of the season and it will be hard being there if we are in a position where we can go down, I'm going to try and get it swapped but I doubt anyone would cover because most people will be like me and wanting to see what happen, others just won't want to work through their weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 This is laughable ... the talk of 2 wins in a row is ridiculous really 2 daws possibly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 This is laughable ... the talk of 2 wins in a row is ridiculous really 2 daws possibly The point I was making was that a win against QPR or West Ham then Hull have to win 2 games, which is more unlikely than us winning two games. We must beat QPR, if we do then it will probably be all over by the final day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 If we beat QPR (big IF), Sunderland v Leicester guarantees us moving at least one position up the table (maybe two if its a draw). Therefore, no matter what Hull do on Saturday, it will mean we would need Sunderland, Hull and Leicester all to survive defeats on the final day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 So QPR are down if they lose today? We win next week and Hull lose to Spurs, we are safe? What if we draw next week or lose? What's the safety scenario for final weekend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 QPR are perfectly capable of beating us on their day, hell Grimsby U8's could put up a decent fight against our lot. However I think it'll depend how they take relegation after today, play with the shackles off or flipflop football. I think Hull are all but gone now, Spurs is a winable game, they are terrible at the moment but they won't beat Manure. 2 draws or 1 win will see us safe. After this weekend I feel a lot more confident we'll survive, no thanks to Carver, Hull are just even worse than us. We'll be safe, on game 37 a MA wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 win both games and Palace lose theirs we will be on the same points. That would actually be glorious after the creaming over Pardew in the media. On second thoughts, they'd somehow find a way to justify his status as a top class manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 So QPR are down if they lose today? We win next week and Hull lose to Spurs, we are safe? What if we draw next week or lose? What's the safety scenario for final weekend? We win and Hull don't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 So QPR are down if they lose today? We win next week and Hull lose to Spurs, we are safe? What if we draw next week or lose? What's the safety scenario for final weekend? current scenario, we win our two games we're safe regardless or hull don't win any games. But if hull wins a game and we only draw one game or lose both we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Sunderland are still in the mix, especially if they get beat on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Hilarious that Sunderland have managed to lose at home 0-4, 1-4 (twice) and lost 8-0(!) at the start of the season yet still have a better goal difference than us by 4 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Beating QPR doesn't make us mathematically safe but it means Hull need 4pts and Sunderland need 3. It just flat out won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Beating QPR doesn't make us mathematically safe but it means Hull need 4pts and Sunderland need 3. It just flat out won't happen. Hull would need 5 points (6 since 5 will be impossible at that point). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 QPR look utter wank but still have enough set piece threat to score a couple against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Beating QPR doesn't make us mathematically safe but it means Hull need 4pts and Sunderland need 3. It just flat out won't happen. Hull would need 5 points (6 since 5 will be impossible at that point). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't think relegation would necessarily help us and I certainly don't want us to go down but I do have the feeling that we deserve it more than any other club. It will do the other teams in the league a terrible injustice if we don't go down. The fucking happy-clappers will love us to stay up so much so that Ashley's cuntery will be forgotten by them. Jesus fucking wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 From out of respect to the game of football - Newcastle United, the club owned by Mike Ashley deserves to be banished to the lowest divisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Only people that relegation hurts is us. The "happy Clappy brigade" will turn up regardless and Ashley could care less. The ground would still be full. I don't know why anyone thinks relegation will potentially help. Even if he does sell up, the potential investors if we are a championship club could be just as damaging to the club, coupled with the fact there is even less chance of us bouncing back up than last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 If I'm not mistaken the closest Ashley has come to selling occurred while we were in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Mike Ashley deserves to have a team relegated and so do his minions, but we as fans don't deserve that, just as no fans really do. This idea that it'll hurt him is misplaced I think. If it costs him 100m, it'd probably be like me losing £100. I'd be angry for half an hour and then just move on. His Sports Direct Empire fluctuates that much with a difficult day on the stock exchange. He'll just focus on his 4bn and laugh at us is the more likely scenario. We'll probably be on TV more in the Championship than we've been on in the Premier League this year, with that and the story of it all giving his tatty sports empire even more coverage. That's the big problem, it will hurt the fans a hell of a lot more than it hurts Ashley, even if some are past caring, most still aren't. I can't work out if QPR's result today helps or hinders us. I knew they'd be down after today, but I don't know if that 6-0 just kills them off as an effort giving team for the season, or if it will cause a reaction, with the media on them and pressure to make their own fans proud next week. It could go either way. One thing I do know is that they're absolutely s**** and if they beat us, we then as a team are just too crap to expect much better than relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 From out of respect to the game of football - Newcastle United, the club owned by Mike Ashley deserves to be banished to the lowest divisions. club deserves to be docked points, we are like boxers that refuse to attack and just amble around the ring trying to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 win both games and Palace lose theirs we will be on the same points. Ok. This is the reason I want us to win the last two games now. That would be great to eee the cunt lose 6 in a row and be level with us at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 13/2 3rd fav even with the mackems having a game in hand. At this stage I think that's a decent price for any certain people out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 From out of respect to the game of football - Newcastle United, the club owned by Mike Ashley deserves to be banished to the lowest divisions. club deserves to be docked points, we are like boxers that refuse to attack and just amble around the ring trying to defend. Brining the game into disrepute definitely seems to apply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't think relegation would necessarily help us and I certainly don't want us to go down but I do have the feeling that we deserve it more than any other club. It will do the other teams in the league a terrible injustice if we don't go down. The fucking happy-clappers will love us to stay up so much so that Ashley's cuntery will be forgotten by them. Jesus fucking wept. Honestly, I can't believe anyone thinks relegation will help. It's the worst thing that could happen to you. Pretending otherwise is cutting your nose off to spite your face. You need to stay up and fight Ashley from there. Although, you're in a difficult situation now. having had the press throw the "they hate him partly because he's not from the Geordie Nation" shit at you for ages, now Ashley has lumbered you with Carver - a goon destined to achieve nothing with you, except he's very much a Geordie, so regardless of what happens he's now got you with the "then they gave them a Geordie, and they wanted him out TOO!" line. Ashley is a devious fucker. He really is. But getting relegated will hurt you more than it does him. He can cover the profits drop by just cracking down harder on the slaves at his logistics centre. What a total cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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