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Always turn up against the 'big' teams. A win tomorrow tonight from either Swansea or mackems and we're in trouble. Couldn't really care and I hope we go down tbh.

 

a win for mackems and we're in exactly the same situation.

They would go above us on GD.

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West Ham are decent

 

Will pose more of a threat than these t***s tonight.

 

Another draw, I fear, which'll do us no favours whatsoever.

 

It was a great United attacking performance with fervour and Rooney was imperious. What you on about?

 

I'm not saying manure were poor, but I see West Ham as a bigger threat is all. They've got players to cause us problems and have Payet and Valencia back.

 

Bang in form too.

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A point tonight doesn't help at all, but of course it's the woeful results against Villa, Everton and West Brom that are the real issue. We need a spell of form, it's as simple as that. We could be adrift if we only get a point against West Ham.

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Play like that every week and we'll be fine.

 

Yup, this is not a team that should go down. We've not been playing that badly, well in fact, but we needed more threat from the midfield, and Mitrovic to start putting them away. Get Conjo in for Tiote moving Colback back if he must remain, and a striker/Perez replacement that can get goals and we'll be fine (not that I think either deserve to be sit out games as subs, especially Mitrovic after todays hold up play, but needs must).

 

 

Oh and fuck the BT commentators and pundits. Such staggering and utterly pitiful focus on the Mancs. FUCK. THEM. ALL.

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Oh and fuck the BT commentators and pundits. Such staggering and utterly pitiful focus on the Mancs.

 

That brought out my kneejerk reaction, like. Scholes and Ferdinand, man. :lol: So pre-planned. Quite liked Jenas's reaction to LvG's whining interview, "boo-hoo, we could have had 6" , saying he gave us no credit, and Scholes admitting we could have had 6 as well, however. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

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At half time Bournemouth had gained 3 points on us, and now we've gained one on them. Quite a big 4pt swing come May.

 

Not bothered about Villa - if they finish above us, it's because we're on under 30pts and long gone. So it doesn't matter.

Bournemouth play Norwich on Saturday as well, all it takes is us tow win (yeah I know) and thats at least 1 more team dragged right back into it.
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If the bottom three stayed like that come the end of the season, that's three big clubs with huge histories in the game that are dropping, how many titles have we got between each other, how many FA cup wins ? Also when was the last time all three promoted teams stayed up ?

 

The likelihood is at least one of the three will get out of it, Sunderland and Villa both with huge wins have the momentum I guess, we keep putting in decent performances against the bigger names in the division but not getting enough points everywhere else. That has to change if we want to stay up. West Ham are in great form at the moment so it doesn't get any easier for us this weekend.

 

If you look at our squad on paper and compare it with clubs like Bornemouth (where Dan Gosling is a bloody regular ffs) then we really shouldn't be down there, just shows what a crap job McClaren and Carr in terms of recruitment have done.

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Its between us the mackems and Swansea for the final 2 places and the mackems will stay up so its down and out for us. Swansea getting rid of Monk/not replacing him properly will see them down with us. Norwich and Bournemouth have something about them we lack, they haven't been losing 3 to 4 games on the trot and are picking up points here and there. We need to beat WHU and then go on a run of not losing, picking up wins and draws. I can't see it happening.

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Sure for now they're looking better, but form for every team will go up and down over the next 17 games HTT.

 

Bournemouth are 3 points off relegation, Norwich 5. Every single year there's a team which particularly struggles and teams which particularly improve in the second half of the season, it's very hard to predict and it's far from a 3 horse race for 2 spots yet imo.

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The last paragraph contradicts itself doesn't it?

 

Yes it does, should be or instead of and because clearly there has either been some kind of disconnect between the type of player we brought in and the needs of the coach or McClaren is simply not getting what should be expect out of the players at his disposal.

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Mildly encouraged by what I watched today. Shelvey is a bit of a game-changer is so much as he gives us something we've not seen for a couple of years, he could be the difference.

 

I'm back down to a 4.

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11 points from our last 8 now, replicate that over the remaining 16 games gives us 43 points. Looks like we might be OK.

 

Only got to play 3 of the current top 6 in the remaining fixtures too. Little things but it's looking brighter than it was a week or so ago.

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I'm not ready to go to as low as a 4-5 yet, 6-7 is where I'm thinking. 5 wins and 2-3 draws and we are safe in my opinion. I know we have the ability to gain safety, but we also have the ability to throw it all away. I don't think anyone can look at us and say for certain that we will stay up or go down.

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I had been assuming that Swansea would get out of it but it seems they might be set on imploding.

 

The mackems will probably get to play a couple more games against 10 men so could sneak out again so my current picks to go are Villa, Swansea and Norwich.

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I had been assuming that Swansea would get out of it but it seems they might be set on imploding.

 

The mackems will probably get to play a couple more games against 10 men so could sneak out again so my current picks to go are Villa, Swansea and Norwich.

Those three look knackered aye, mackems to probably escape it quite late on

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I'm still not comfortable about us...but was pleasnatly surprised by Saturdays performance and attitude. (Shelvey being a massive plus)

 

Villa are gone, Swansea seem to be hell bent on self destruction so for me it's between the filth, us, Norwich and maybe someone who has a last minute dip for the last slot.

 

Can't see Bournemouth now as they have spent well and have a cracking manager and team ethic.

 

Not out of the woods but I have to admit I am more confident than I was and 'amazed' at the 4 points we have picked up from the last 2 games.

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