nortoon Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Absolutely my number 1 choice if we can get him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I’m so conflicted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 50% of Everton fans didn't want him. 80% of everton fans want him gone. 100% of Everton fans will want him gone when he loses the derby and Liverpool fans sing his name. Everton might as well take a small transfer fee now and put it towards another manager or pay a modest transfer fee sacking him before the season is out. Next time listen to your fans, Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 He’s done it at the lower end of the table and the top. He has the affinity, outlook and communication licked. He’s perfect for where we are now and the immediate to long term. He’s just at pissing Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I’d rather remember him doing a fantastic job for us in the Ashley era than he come back and something inevitably go wrong and the fans turn against him for his playing style or transfers etc. I don’t want the memory tainted by what’s to come- managers always get sacked- he left last time with professionalism and pride intact, and with our support. The next time probably won’t be like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Right now, my reasoning for wanting Rafa is not more for the on-pitch prospect but would be more for the off-field transformation of the club. He had a vision for how the club can be moving forward. We know what he will bring to the team but its his vision for the club which I am excited for. And yes, I do fear. 2nd comings often does not turn out well. Edited October 26, 2021 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The only reason to get Rafa is for the buildup process, mostly behind the scenes and the obv. park the bus and counter to avoid relegation threat. No one remember these Pool teams and some of the awkward buys he made? It's way riskier, but it might pay way more dividends to get some entertaining ball back to SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Everton would want his contract paying up and then some. I would guess its a minimum of 20m. Maybe Staveley is going down the FFP route... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 think Im going to tune out for a week or two until the manager is confirmed. Cant be arsed with the press and chucking in a name every few hours. At this rate, 90% of managers in Europe will have been linked to NUFC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Wonder if Rafa was Ando’s surprise name ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Wonder if Rafa was Ando’s surprise name ? I thought we all agreed that Ten Hag was the leftie ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 As much as I like the idea of Favre and Fonseca’s attacking football, if there was any chance of getting Rafa back i’d sack them two off in a heartbeat. Knows the club, fans, area and owners. It’s the right move for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 So here's the thing, even if Rafa is happy to stay at Everton because he just would never break a contract, what happens if we just deal directly with Everton and their owner and just came to an agreement and agreed compensation for them to release him, and they say he is free to leave. That's feasible right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Rafa is by far my number 1 choice to manage us, but the reason I'm conflicted is if there's any chance it fails (which it might) I really don't want Rafa lumped under the banner of failed managers at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: I’m so conflicted Aye. Could be the safe bet for 2-3 seasons to keep us up and rebuild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, KaKa said: So here's the thing, even if Rafa is happy to stay at Everton because he just would never break a contract, what happens if we just deal directly with Everton and their owner and just came to an agreement and agreed compensation for them to release him, and they say he is free to leave. That's feasible right? Yes. But that only saves face for Rafa. Everton still look stupid appointing him to begin with. I'm sure they'd rather him force their hand. It might be about how all parties come out looking OK about this. Same as the PL with the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Depends how you categorise failure. If he comes (which he won't), he'd keep us up and we'd be a top 10 team - anything else is a bonus. He'll have done his job in taking us to the next level. I'd be happy with that, providing we get someone even better in after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Rafa is by far my number 1 choice to manage us, but the reason I'm conflicted is if there's any chance it fails (which it might) I really don't want Rafa lumped under the banner of failed managers at NUFC. I don't think he is my number 1 choice, for the reason you mention alone. Plus whilst I think he'd keep us up and be more than capable of building something going forward. The press will be on him from the get go and I think there are still plenty of fans who genuinely think the football and 'results' were not much better than what Bruce served up. Ignoring anything else other than points and the finish in the league, they half have a point. So I just think him returning wouldn't necessarily work, as well as it did the first time. All that said, if he got announced tomorrow. Then I'd have no worries about getting relegated. Whilst some of the other names linked have a sexier profile, I don't think I'd be so sure about staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Only problem for me is Rafa is like a Dof, SD and manager wrapped in one. Would he really want to share the vision of the club with others? His fact rant would suggest otherwise and tbh I think this is the future for us and a massive project to catapult.us up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 the ex-girlfriend is married now, guys. i know it hurts but you gotta let go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dokko said: Only problem for me is Rafa is like a Dof, SD and manager wrapped in one. Would he really want to share the vision of the club with others? His fact rant would suggest otherwise and tbh I think this is the future for us and a massive project to catapult.us up I think this could cause a problem however I'm sure Rafa would have people I'm place for all the rooms required to rebuild the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Manxst said: I’d rather remember him doing a fantastic job for us in the Ashley era than he come back and something inevitably go wrong and the fans turn against him for his playing style or transfers etc. I don’t want the memory tainted by what’s to come- managers always get sacked- he left last time with professionalism and pride intact, and with our support. The next time probably won’t be like that. this is where I’m at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ben said: I think this could cause a problem however I'm sure Rafa would have people I'm place for all the rooms required to rebuild the club Remember the tweet below from a few weeks back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, thomas said: the ex-girlfriend is married now, guys. i know it hurts but you gotta let go Nah, not married. She’s now seeing another guy, but it’s an abusive relationship. The guy wants to be seen out with the glamorous woman, and hopes her success rubs off on him. But deep down, he resents her and talks down to her. She needs to come to her senses get up and walk away, but she’s trying to make the relationship work. Lol! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Really don't like the sound of this McParland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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