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17 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

My only worry - and it is a minor one - is that we don’t know what the owners expectations are, nor how they will react to stretches of disappointing results.  And by the owners, I’m referring to PIF.

 

For me, Howe should be given a couple of years to build - we’re so much better than this time last year irrespective of money spent.  The bloke is clearly an excellent manager / coach.

We do, they want us to be the best club in the world, and they know it is a marathon not a sprint. We also know how they’ll react to long stretches of poor results, by backing and supporting the manager. They’ll do that in January & again next summer.

 

we’re not getting beaten, we’re 10th in the league. Keep the faith. The country is weird as fuck atm and that didn’t help the crowd or team for a football match.
 

onwards and upwards :indi:

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Just now, Theregulars said:

Who has contributed more assists and goals in a Newcastle shirt? One has under 3 in both categories, one doesn’t. 

 

Who is a 33 year old mascot at this point of his career? Absolutely pointless debate, neither is good enough and if Howe picks Murphy ahead of him I trust his decision.

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Just now, nufc123 said:

5 years ago yes

What makes Murphy better than Ritchie? Which facet of his game do you think makes him a preferable option? Is it the never finishing a chance, constantly hitting the first man or being knocked off the ball easier than a wet towel? 

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4 minutes ago, Menace said:

Why aren't you able to criticise a performance without people mentioning the last owners  or being "spoilt"

 

Today was a shit performance, it's that simple.

Nobody is denying it wasn't but we're specifically talking about the people who think it's okay to boo or lose their shit on sm every time we don't win a game we're expected to.

 

It just makes us all look like fickle cunts.

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13 minutes ago, Menace said:

Why aren't you able to criticise a performance without people mentioning the last owners  or being "spoilt"

 

Today was a shit performance, it's that simple.

 

I think we're all in agreement it was a frustrating performance, but it's the bipolar nature of things that's frustrating.

 

The Man City performance and result, the performance against Liverpool had us guaranteed finishing top 6 by some.

 

The recent Athletic article on Howe had him as the next Keegan and Sir Bobby.

 

But a draw against a Bournemouth side that aren't as bad as that 9-0 result has people making out that the new owners are accepting mediocrity and us going backwards under Howe.

 

Which is absolutely shocking.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Menace said:

Why aren't you able to criticise a performance without people mentioning the last owners  or being "spoilt"

 

Today was a shit performance, it's that simple.


I agree it's the same when Rafa was here. Today was just not acceptable for a number of reasons. Nothing more

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1 minute ago, joeyt said:

I just felt he could have tried something different. Put Almiron on the left and Fraser on the right to try and stretch it a bit.

 

Just felt like 96 mins of the same stuff

Possibly because we have zero options and Eddie knows that, as we get better players I am confident we will see more in game management and adapting to the opposition, but hand on heat I don't think any of our bench or some of the players who started are up to changing the formation mid game.

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The club EH joined was on it's knees and heading in one direction. Eddie Howe gets eternal credit and respect from me for what he achieved with the disorganized, unfit rabble left behind by the fat fraud. Now he has a different club and different problems.

 

He has scrutiny from all sides and that comes from the investment we've made (it'll get mentioned at every opportunity by those who hope he fails), leading to massively increased expectation in the "must have it all now" era we live in, even though you have to factor in 15 years of virtually none at all. What we've given him is the basic minimum he needed to get the squad somewhere near where it should be. There's gaps and they'll be filled, just not overnight.

 

Now he has to have the shoulders broad enough to deal with any inevitable criticism, even from within our own fanbase, who clearly have very short memories. I back him to succeed long term, he just has "it" and one or two scrappy performances and poor results as he deals with injuries to key players and teams who come to frustrate us don't change that.

 

 

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Results aren't really indicative of the performances right now imo. We're playing better than the results would suggest but I absolutely accept that there is a large amount of frustration over dropping points. I'm sure Howe is just as pissed off but it's a fine line at the minute because of all of the draws. 

 

Absolutely not going to start papping my wackers at the draws and I'm sure that the winds will come once we have a few more bodies back. Still got complete faith in Howe to make it happen, now is not the time to start pointing fingers and booing and shit like that, it'll turn soon enough. We need every quality player in the squad on the pitch to play these games and we've barely had that all season. Keep the faith, it'll happen gentlemen :)

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16 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Probably his strongest post match comments today. I'm a bit worried he's trying to model us like a proper possession side - that just doesn't sit right in terms of who we are, imo, even if we had the squad we wanted.

Agreed. This is what I’m on about regarding learning about SJP and the fans. A good NUFC team is fast and direct. It has to be.  The crowd will moan and groan with too many sideways passing. 

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