LiquidAK Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Emery is great, but he'd struggle with our squad, injuries, and fixture congestion. Anyone would tbh. Silly to compare them when our European games were against Mbappe and co, and they're playing a bunch of Polish painter-decorators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: Lose the derby and will be an awful cloud of negativity mind. Needing a win against Forest on boxing day for sure cos can't see Liverpool away going well. Losing the derby would be massive thing like. People will be in for a shock with the reaction from fans if that happens (not just on here). Especially if that’s off the back with poor results against Forest and Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: They are this season as well just not to the same level. Yes, playing the part time Latvian sheep farmers is not the same as facing PSG, etc ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Beat Forest and we’re still on a decent trajectory. Anything at Liverpool will be a bonus. Beat the mackems and Eddie will get a lot more peace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, RS said: Eddie is without doubt the man for this club with its owners modus operandi of a slow build to the top 6. Our performance last season has led to a false dawn and that has fucked up the heads of the “I want it all, now” types on here. A quick look at the table has us 7th, above manu and Chelski. Something almost unimaginable just a couple of seasons ago. We are still on trajectory and the right man is still in charge. Merry Christmas. Pretty much this, and especially the part in bold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Football 365 editors frothing at the mouth now! 10 Howe for the sack "articles" ready to go! Arseholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, RS said: Eddie is without doubt the man for this club with its owners modus operandi of a slow build to the top 6. Our performance last season has led to a false dawn and that has fucked up the heads of the “I want it all, now” types on here. A quick look at the table has us 7th, above manu and Chelski. Something almost unimaginable just a couple of seasons ago. We are still on trajectory and the right man is still in charge. Merry Christmas. Think that's a load of bollocks, out of Europe, outside the top 4 people have been more than reasonable and understanding on the whole. Minging performances against Bournemouth,Everton, Luton and the performances are called out. Edited December 23, 2023 by WideopenMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Give Eddie a break - we're way ahead of schedule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I'd like to think that a fully fit squad wouldn't have been so absolutely fucking abject in getting a result against fucking Luton. The reality is that we've not really shown any flexibility in our approach which was, in likelihood, necessary in light of: A. The dogshit luck we've had in terms of injuries B. The fact that Chelsea, Spurs and Villa would invest and be stronger this year C. Our style of play would have been on the radar of video analysts throughout the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 No nufc manager should be losing to the mackems, especially when they are a division below and in a crisis of their own. It would be one of the most embarrassing moments in the 40 odd years supporting the club. He loses that, he's done here. I don't see how he comes back from that. I'd personally never forgive him, liken any manager who has done so before him. Not arsed about today, or forest and certainly Liverpool. I wasn't much fussed on Chelsea either. I'm not expecting us to win atm. All the life has been sucked out of us. I'm fatigued talking about their fatigue. Personally think there's a lot of excuses being made for him and the team atm. No excuses will be enough if he loses to sunderland. Win or draw that then I'm happy to write this season off, finish too ten and grt some serious investment in the next few windows. This time, maybe spread out the funds instead of lumping it all on 3 players. We need a squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Too early to consider sacking him, but I’m afraid his intense style both have been ‘found out’, and has led to so many injuries and fatigue in the squad. We are clearly short in numbers to compete on ‘all fronts’, but we also can’t go out spending too much because of the ridiculous FFP rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 The performances and results in the last four away games have been poor, that said there's plenty of mitigation as to why they've come about. I have no doubt we'll learn from this period and improve, but as previously stated it might get worse before it gets better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 There's plenty of Villa forums if people want to go pipe off Emery there. Probably more relevant than an Eddie Howe thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Decky said: If we have a bad January and lose to the mackems I can see a substantial section of the fanbase turning against Howe. It would be a real shame for it to happen but football fans are fickle. Given how difficult January looks we have to beat Forest in a few days, a bad result there will only make it way worse. I think if we lose to the Mackems the pitch forks will be out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: Think that's a load of bollocks, out of Europe, outside the top 4 people have been more than reasonable and understanding on the whole. Minging performances against Bournemouth,Everton, Luton and the performances are called out. Bad games against Luton, Everton and Bournemouth, but trashed Arsenal, ManU and Chelsea at home, and should have won Liverpool. Our away form is horrible this year. I think our defence will start to keep clean sheets now that Botman is back. But we need bodies back to midfield and upfront also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 We've seen nothing but excellent decisions from the owners and the board regarding football matters. There hasn't been the slightest suggestion that they are anything but 100% behind Howe and the staff. The talk of the likes of Mourinho being lined up as a replacement is entirely press generated by journalists with no track record of being close to those who are in a position to make that decision. Howe's made some mistakes this season, and we've had a bad performance the day but we've also had some desperately unlucky moments in huge games. We'll get past this, we've a brilliant manager who has worked wonders in such a short time that some people are losing their sense of balance. Support the team and the people who've already brought us some magical moments. This is the time to be United. Howay The Lads !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: Think that's a load of bollocks, out of Europe, outside the top 4 people have been more than reasonable and understanding on the whole. Minging performances against Bournemouth,Everton, Luton and the performances are called out. You thought the terrible stats against Luton were bollocks as well. You need to broaden your horizons sweet pea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Losing to Sunderland would certainly be a poor result, but it'd be incredibly short sighted to bin anyone off on the the back of a poor result against them alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Losing to Sunderland away wouldn't be even remotely embarrassing. It would be shite and the craic will be lifting, but the odds of it happening aren't exactly long. The season is a write off at this point, atleast from where we hoped we would be at the start. Edited December 23, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: The season is a write off at this point, atleast from where we hoped we would be at the start. I don’t think it is. Most would have Top 6 and a cup as a pretty good follow on season to last year. I think that’s why so much hangs on the mackems game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 One line that stood out for me from the Amazon doc was Dan Ashworth saying something to the effect of "next season will be a lot harder," during a Zoom call to the owners about whatever subject. We were always going to hit a rough patch this season. There was no earthly way we would sustain the same dramatic upwards curve from the prior 18 months; and that's before we factor in a generational injury crisis. Howe's tactical inflexibility is fair game for debate, but everything else you might critique about the team this season has a massive and absolving asterisk imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dokko said: No nufc manager should be losing to the mackems, especially when they are a division below and in a crisis of their own. It would be one of the most embarrassing moments in the 40 odd years supporting the club. He loses that, he's done here. I don't see how he comes back from that. I'd personally never forgive him, liken any manager who has done so before him. Not arsed about today, or forest and certainly Liverpool. I wasn't much fussed on Chelsea either. I'm not expecting us to win atm. All the life has been sucked out of us. I'm fatigued talking about their fatigue. Personally think there's a lot of excuses being made for him and the team atm. No excuses will be enough if he loses to sunderland. Win or draw that then I'm happy to write this season off, finish too ten and grt some serious investment in the next few windows. This time, maybe spread out the funds instead of lumping it all on 3 players. We need a squad. Lot of respect for you as a poster, but that's mad, sorry. Anything can happen in a one off game, especially one that will have the unique pressure of a derby game. After everything he's done for us so far it would be crazy to have it all hinge on what is ultimately one game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Means far more to people local to the club than just "one game" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 We're certainly short of confidence at the moment at not playing anywhere near the standards we've been blessed with the past 2 years but there's not a single atom of me that sees this as any of Howe's doing. No club could plan for the sheer number of injuries we've had this year and no club could sustain the quality of football we've played historically with those injuries. We have a really big January window coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just shows how far we've come if being seventh at Christmas means the season is a write off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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