MrRaspberryJam Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, ManDoon said: gen was shocked how bad we were in the flesh. I’ve seen Stephen hawking move faster than longstaff. It’s crazy Hawking had a good engine on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Not sure I’m really feeling the desire to get Rafa back. Pretty hard to deny he did an excellent job with a mostly poor set of players and funds available, but so do many other less successful managers. I don’t see a lot from his track record post-Liverpool to say he can bring long-term success or that he’s a “world class manager” that I often hear, but on the other hand you could likely say that about the other options and he’d certainly have a ‘project’. Saying that he’s a pragmatic man who did his job very well and then understandably moved on and so should we. He can be a legend without ruining his reputation as people have said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Jinx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Slight question mark about Dutch managers in the premier league, none have ever had sustained success. Although Overmars has the experience as a player. So maybe that DoF combo would work, still a gamble though. Emery at Arsenal was not good if anyone can remember, they were a soft touch and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights when things weren’t going well. Fonseca could be anything. Total gamble. Martinez, well his Everton side were frail at the back, something Koeman sorted out while he was there. Rafa hasn’t exactly pulled up trees in his last two appointments. Had the platform in China, should have easily been the best coach there. Everton was always going to be tough but they could be doing better, is he hitting a rut? The Mike Ashley effect? The PFM’s in training also don’t inspire confidence. Conte is the standout candidate and it looks like we didn’t even try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, kisearch said: An incredible case study in what quickly happens when football fans used to having nothing suddenly have the prospect of getting everything they've ever dreamt of. Some people are probably going to find out that they're just unhappy. I wonder how many wouldn’t have taken a completed takeover and Rafa returning a month ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 IIRC Stephen Hawking is dead and was paralysed from the neck down so if you're saying he still had more movement than Longstaff then he must have been really bad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Conte is the standout candidate and it looks like we didn’t even try. Nah, I’m sure we’d have asked, but it’s clear he’s a ‘winner’ and not a ‘builder’ which is what we need right now. He’d have turned us down for sure. He’s a man who wants trophies and move, not build an empire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Nah, I’m sure we’d have asked, but it’s clear he’s a ‘winner’ and not a ‘builder’ which is what we need right now. He’d have turned us down for sure. He’s a man who wants trophies and move, not build an empire. Surely that’s just circumstance though. He wanted to stay in his last role but the board broke promises. He’s high maintenance for sure but there’s no doubt the intelligence he has in setting up his teams to the strength of his players. I’m really annoyed he’s going to Spurs, such a waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: Ten Hag Rafa Fonseca Emery Truth be told I'd be happy with any one of them. this, 100%! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, NE27 said: I went to the Tottenham game after exiling myself from nufc, even TV games. Genuinely couldn't believe how disorganised and lacklustre that same squad Rafa had is now. They basically are the footballing embodiment of Steve Bruce now. Same situation for me and then I also went to the Chelsea match which was even worse. It was a long, long time since I’d watched a game and I was expecting to see a team that was average at best, but was genuinely shocked to see the plight they are in, they are jaw droppingly shite. Edited November 1, 2021 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Surely that’s just circumstance though. He wanted to stay in his last role but the board broke promises. He’s high maintenance for sure but there’s no doubt the intelligence he has in setting up his teams to the strength of his players. I’m really annoyed he’s going to Spurs, such a waste. Simply no way he’d entertain coming to us. In my opinion. He’s a level above where we are, if not more so, and he knows it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: Simply no way he’d entertain coming to us. In my opinion. He’s a level above where we are, if not more so, and he knows it. Are you saying a bloke who could walk into any job in world football right now wouldn’t want to piss about at the foot of the Premier League coaching Emil Krafth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 ten Hag Emery Benitez Fonseca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, christ said: Are you saying a bloke who could walk into any job in world football right now wouldn’t want to piss about at the foot of the Premier League coaching Emil Krafth? Sorry to be so pessimistic- think the bedwetters have finally got to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: It’s not bed wetting imo, there is a real danger to our PL status Of course. And we as fans can see it, just as I’m sure the owners can. Complaint about not having a manager in for the last two games though and thinking we’d have got anything out of them, instead of taking the time to interview all the possible candidates IS bedwetting. If it’s not down this week or next then we’ve got problems, but all signs point to it getting done. People just have to have patience, like the last 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Just feel the Ajax squad is flattering him like it flattered Bosz and De Boer before him. Also doesn’t strike me as the type of character who would shine abroad for some reason. Good to read this. I was wondering if I’m weird for not particularly wanting him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Even if Everton we’re considering Rafa’s position I couldn’t see them sacking him at the moment. They know fine well we would take him so why cough out to sack him, when they could receive millions instead. It would be like the situation when we hired Souness and Blackburn we’re on the brink of sacking the cunt, then along comes Freddie and gives them a lumper. It would certainly be a win for Everton if they are losing faith with Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Even if Everton we’re considering Rafa’s position I couldn’t see them sacking him at the moment. They know fine well we would take him so why cough out to sack him, when they could receive millions instead. It would be like the situation when we hired Souness and Blackburn we’re on the brink of sacking the cunt, then along comes Freddie and gives them a lumper. It would certainly be a win for Everton if they are losing faith with Rafa. They don’t seem that flippant though. Ancelotti had bad spells last season too which they let go.. I think their supporters were sort of indifferent to him and he was the same with them. He couldn’t wait to get out of there. Can’t see Rafa being sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Emery Has to be number one from all the other candidates. I like how Fonseca hated defending and he is all out attacking very Keeganesque too riskey for our current predicament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Expect there is a happy medium with rafa departing Everton. Especially if they lose again at the weekend. Lower compensation that doesn't look like Everton higher ups lose face. As much as they know we might want him we also know a portion of Everton fans want him out that might translate to the boardroom soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, ManDoon said: As grim as it is I would get dummett in and play a flat back four, we are getting murdered at left back atm Tifo did a Who should Newcastle sign in January? video. Guess who they left in. I like Ritchie because I know he's always putting the graft in, have a real soft spot for him from past performances, and just generally like him (knowing he called Bruce a coward helps) but my God he shouldn't be playing left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Snippet from this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10154213/Aston-Villa-make-informal-contact-Paulo-Fonseca-pressure-mounting-Dean-Smith.html The 48-year-old was in talks with Spurs in the summer and spoke to Newcastle about their vacancy. But the Magpies’ new owners are looking instead at Villarreal’s Unai Emery and Belgium boss Roberto Martinez. They want to appoint a new boss before the trip to Brighton on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: I think he’s a decent bloke but he’s a painfully average winger and an even worse full back. His legs are probably going too so it’s all compounded He is a liability all round and that’s not going to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I think he’s a decent bloke but he’s a painfully average winger and an even worse full back. His legs are probably going too so it’s all compounded I get the sense he's still starting because Jones doesn't want to upset the apple cart and piss off the big characters. Clark and Shelvey fall into that bracket too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Hindsight might show us that the alternative is even worse, who knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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