Paulo Fonseca

[Wilson]

My thoughts on appointing Fonseca...

 

 

So clueless about him, but after a bit reading I'm on board, so refreshing to actually look for a decent manager rather than scrape the barrel.

[OCK]

28 minutes ago, Mag_in_NZ said:

If he was thoughtful and meticulous in his approach to the way we play and considered the opponents (rather than simply “bigging them up”) then he could be called Jumbo Higgingbottom for all I care…..Kevin, Bobby, Chris, Glen…

 

 

 

It was joke. Bad joke, but joke. 

[The Prophet]

Total speculation on my part, but I think he's our man and it sounds like it's at a pretty advanced stage. 

 

If they're interviewing for the DoF position, you'd imagine they'll need some sort of thumbs up to sign it off, though I'll feel sorry for the bloke if it unfolds the way it did at Spurs.

[Darth Crooks]

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, Darth Crooks said:

Hey, stay cool 😎 

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Darth Crooks said:

 

Amazing

[KaKa]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/09/23/paulo-fonseca-interview-spurs-move-torpedoed-desire-defensive/

 

Paulo Fonseca interview: My Spurs move was torpedoed by a desire for defensive football

 

Exclusive: Fonseca outlines how close he was to joining Tottenham until Fabio Paratici was appointed as managing director

 

Paulo Fonseca has revealed he started pre-season plans at Tottenham before his move was torpedoed by managing director Fabio Paratici's demands for more defensive football.

In a wide-ranging interview with Telegraph Sport, Fonseca outlined how close he was to joining Spurs, saying “the agreement was done”, but that the move collapsed due to Paratici wanting a less attack-minded coach.

 

Nuno Espirito Santo was eventually appointed as Jose Mourinho's successor, with the former Wolves head coach having already been subjected to criticism by supporters for a perceived negative style.

 

Fonseca insists his attacking instincts - shaped by his time with Shakhtar Donetsk and AS Roma - would have chimed with Tottenham's motto of 'To Dare Is To Do', but admits his move was doomed as soon as Paratici was appointed. 

 

“The agreement was done. We were planning the pre-season and Tottenham wanted an offensive coach. It wasn’t announced but we planned pre-season players. But things changed when the new managing director arrived and we didn’t agree with some ideas and he preferred another coach,” Fonseca said, speaking from his home in Kiev, Ukraine.

“I have some principles. I wanted to be coach of the great teams but I want the right project and a club where the people believe in my ideas, my way to play, and this didn’t happen with the managing director.

“It’s what the chairman and the sporting director (Steve Hitchen) asked for. To build a team who can play attractive and offensive football and I was ready for that. I cannot be a different way. All my teams will have these intentions. In Rome or Shakhtar in the Champions League against the biggest teams, I’m not sending out my teams to defend near their own box.”

Fonseca, 48, has stuck to his attacking principles from when he started as a coach in the Portuguese lower divisions before working his way up and making his name at Paços Ferreira where he reached the Champions League and gave a debut to a slight 17-year-old called Diogo Jota.

Others who have improved under his guidance included Willy Boly, then Fred when the pair worked together at Shakhtar Donetsk.

By the time Fonseca arrived at Roma, Henrikh Mkhitaryan saw a comparison to Thomas Tuchel, who he worked with at Borussia Dortmund. “He is similar,” Mkhitaryan said of Fonseca, “he tries to put the players in the right position, to give them the freedom to enjoy the way they play.” The improvement of players under Fonseca is underpinned by his attacking football.

“All players want to have the ball,” he said. “They want to dominate. They want to participate. They don’t want to run to recover the ball. They don’t want to run without the ball and defend. The best way to defend is to have the ball.

“We have an obligation with supporters to create a spectacle, a good show. That is the obligation of the coach. I want to win every game but just winning is not enough for me. I have to be offensive and dominate the games and have an offensive midfield and show courage in the game. These are things which will die with me.

“It happened so many times when I got home after winning a game and my wife asked ‘why are you unhappy?’ And it is because I didn’t win the way I wanted to. It is not enough. I have to create a good show for the people who pay the tickets and love football. At least I try. I cannot be a coach in another way.”

 

What is likely to have appealed to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy was Fonseca’s diplomacy at Roma. He worked during a period of uncertainty at the club when the Friedkin Group secured a takeover and he worked without a technical director for a large part of his time in the Italian capital, getting the club to the semi-finals of the Europa League last season.

“It cannot be the coach creating the problems. The coach solves the problems and I believe when you defend the club with your heart, things become easier. It is a question of principles of life. When I am at a club I have to defend them with all my heart and think first about the club and players before myself,” he said.

During the time of the semi-final defeat to Manchester United, Roma had approached Mourinho to take over at the end of the season.

“In some countries maybe it is not normal but it is normal in places like Germany for an announcement six or eight months before when they are working with other clubs. I already knew Tiago Pinto was appointing Jose Mourinho. It was a clear process for me. Jose had a great attitude with me. He called me and spoke and there was no problem,” he said.

When it is suggested to Fonseca that a phone call would have been a chance for Mourinho to recommend the Spurs job, he breaks into laughter. They did not speak about Spurs but it was clear they were suited. Even in that United defeat, they had continued to attack and at 7-4 on aggregate sensed nerves in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s team. Eventually it ended 8-5.

He has been close to coming to England before. In 2018 he spoke with Everton when they eventually signed Marco Silva. At the time Fonseca had a contract with Shakhtar. West Ham United were also interested.

“I honestly believe this will happen one day and is one of my ambitions to coach in England one day,” he said. “I haven’t done it yet so cannot say my way of coaching is perfect for England. But there is more open teams, teams trying to win, of course more intensity but also space to develop my game.”

 

 

Another really interesting article on Fonseca. Highlighted some key bits in there. This would be really intriguing. Hope we get him over the line.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by KaKa

[Dancing Brave]

30 minutes ago, Darth Crooks said:

Happy Days are coming 

[bobbydazzla]

Interesting that his missus is from Kiev and it’s implied Fonzy’s based there, us geeks in the Planespotter thread got a twinge in our y-fronts watching a private jet fly into Newcastle from Ukraine via Italy y’day. 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by bobbydazzla

[LV]

24 minutes ago, KaKa said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/09/23/paulo-fonseca-interview-spurs-move-torpedoed-desire-defensive/

 

Paulo Fonseca interview: My Spurs move was torpedoed by a desire for defensive football

 

Exclusive: Fonseca outlines how close he was to joining Tottenham until Fabio Paratici was appointed as managing director

 

Paulo Fonseca has revealed he started pre-season plans at Tottenham before his move was torpedoed by managing director Fabio Paratici's demands for more defensive football.

In a wide-ranging interview with Telegraph Sport, Fonseca outlined how close he was to joining Spurs, saying “the agreement was done”, but that the move collapsed due to Paratici wanting a less attack-minded coach.

 

Nuno Espirito Santo was eventually appointed as Jose Mourinho's successor, with the former Wolves head coach having already been subjected to criticism by supporters for a perceived negative style.

 

Fonseca insists his attacking instincts - shaped by his time with Shakhtar Donetsk and AS Roma - would have chimed with Tottenham's motto of 'To Dare Is To Do', but admits his move was doomed as soon as Paratici was appointed. 

 

“The agreement was done. We were planning the pre-season and Tottenham wanted an offensive coach. It wasn’t announced but we planned pre-season players. But things changed when the new managing director arrived and we didn’t agree with some ideas and he preferred another coach,” Fonseca said, speaking from his home in Kiev, Ukraine.

“I have some principles. I wanted to be coach of the great teams but I want the right project and a club where the people believe in my ideas, my way to play, and this didn’t happen with the managing director.

“It’s what the chairman and the sporting director (Steve Hitchen) asked for. To build a team who can play attractive and offensive football and I was ready for that. I cannot be a different way. All my teams will have these intentions. In Rome or Shakhtar in the Champions League against the biggest teams, I’m not sending out my teams to defend near their own box.”

Fonseca, 48, has stuck to his attacking principles from when he started as a coach in the Portuguese lower divisions before working his way up and making his name at Paços Ferreira where he reached the Champions League and gave a debut to a slight 17-year-old called Diogo Jota.

Others who have improved under his guidance included Willy Boly, then Fred when the pair worked together at Shakhtar Donetsk.

By the time Fonseca arrived at Roma, Henrikh Mkhitaryan saw a comparison to Thomas Tuchel, who he worked with at Borussia Dortmund. “He is similar,” Mkhitaryan said of Fonseca, “he tries to put the players in the right position, to give them the freedom to enjoy the way they play.” The improvement of players under Fonseca is underpinned by his attacking football.

“All players want to have the ball,” he said. “They want to dominate. They want to participate. They don’t want to run to recover the ball. They don’t want to run without the ball and defend. The best way to defend is to have the ball.

“We have an obligation with supporters to create a spectacle, a good show. That is the obligation of the coach. I want to win every game but just winning is not enough for me. I have to be offensive and dominate the games and have an offensive midfield and show courage in the game. These are things which will die with me.

“It happened so many times when I got home after winning a game and my wife asked ‘why are you unhappy?’ And it is because I didn’t win the way I wanted to. It is not enough. I have to create a good show for the people who pay the tickets and love football. At least I try. I cannot be a coach in another way.”

 

What is likely to have appealed to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy was Fonseca’s diplomacy at Roma. He worked during a period of uncertainty at the club when the Friedkin Group secured a takeover and he worked without a technical director for a large part of his time in the Italian capital, getting the club to the semi-finals of the Europa League last season.

“It cannot be the coach creating the problems. The coach solves the problems and I believe when you defend the club with your heart, things become easier. It is a question of principles of life. When I am at a club I have to defend them with all my heart and think first about the club and players before myself,” he said.

During the time of the semi-final defeat to Manchester United, Roma had approached Mourinho to take over at the end of the season.

“In some countries maybe it is not normal but it is normal in places like Germany for an announcement six or eight months before when they are working with other clubs. I already knew Tiago Pinto was appointing Jose Mourinho. It was a clear process for me. Jose had a great attitude with me. He called me and spoke and there was no problem,” he said.

When it is suggested to Fonseca that a phone call would have been a chance for Mourinho to recommend the Spurs job, he breaks into laughter. They did not speak about Spurs but it was clear they were suited. Even in that United defeat, they had continued to attack and at 7-4 on aggregate sensed nerves in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s team. Eventually it ended 8-5.

He has been close to coming to England before. In 2018 he spoke with Everton when they eventually signed Marco Silva. At the time Fonseca had a contract with Shakhtar. West Ham United were also interested.

“I honestly believe this will happen one day and is one of my ambitions to coach in England one day,” he said. “I haven’t done it yet so cannot say my way of coaching is perfect for England. But there is more open teams, teams trying to win, of course more intensity but also space to develop my game.”

 

 

Another really interesting article on Fonseca. Highlighted some key bits in there. This would be really intriguing. Hope we get him over the line.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok sold. I’m all in on him now.

 

Which means we’ll appoint that misery Gerrard

[nbthree3]

New from Ryder 

 

[nbthree3]

Paulo Fonseca is hoping to agree a deal with Newcastle United after further talks with the Magpies today. (Chronicle ^)

Sources close to the former Porto and AS Roma boss are claiming Fonseca is eager to become the next boss at St James' Park and replace Steve Bruce.

Fonseca is keen to taste life in the Premier League after believing he'd netted the job at Tottenham Hotspur last summer.

 

If the pace of the Fonseca deal continues, he could be in the stands at Crystal Palace on Saturday but the usual formalities are not sealed just yet.

The Magpies have not commented publicly today but said after Bruce left a replacement would be named in "due course".

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by nbthree3

[Charlies]

 

[wyn davies]

how long before he walks the plank due to fans being upset with defensive football

 

[Vinny Green Balls]

He's a foreigner. Doesn't understand the region. And all that horse shit.

[ianovthetoon]

Them forrins. Better off with a PFM. Consults Managers lunch club. Licks badge. 

[Wandy]

5 hours ago, 54 said:

 

 

Reading this quote in the comments makes me nervous about this guy.....

 

I'm an AS Roma fan and I tell you this interview sounded to me like an attempt to sell Paulo Fonseca to Tottenham fans as something he is not. It is true that human resources of the team were not that good but it is also true that if at the end of a first half at Old Trafford you are winning and if you know what players you have to line up you can play any way but conceding your opponents to score on counterattack. Fonseca is surely known as a well dressed gentleman with a nice hair style and all the rest... But he is not a manager for great scenes. Ukraine can be his dimension or maybe some portuguese outsider team or whatever, but surely not Serie A or Premiership. When you make 6 substitutes in a game it means you are not focused on the final result. And I could go on with exemples for hours... Wish Tottenham the best but I don't believe Fonseca to be a good choice.

 

The last thing we need is style over substance in our current plight. Didn't realise his Roma team got hammered 6-2 off Man Utd a few seasons ago too.

[The Prophet]

Aye, Roma took the odd hiding off the better sides.

 

The thing is we're not asking him to compete at a high level, he just needs to progress us. If gets us breaking into the top ten, its a solid start.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by The Prophet

[madras]

16 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

Paulo Fonseca is hoping to agree a deal with Newcastle United after further talks with the Magpies today. (Chronicle ^)

Sources close to the former Porto and AS Roma boss are claiming Fonseca is eager to become the next boss at St James' Park and replace Steve Bruce.

Fonseca is keen to taste life in the Premier League after believing he'd netted the job at Tottenham Hotspur last summer.

 

If the pace of the Fonseca deal continues, he could be in the stands at Crystal Palace on Saturday but the usual formalities are not sealed just yet.

The Magpies have not commented publicly today but said after Bruce left a replacement would be named in "due course".

 

 

 

For God's sake make him sign before he watches us play.

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

Aye, Roma took the odd hiding off the better sides.

 

The thing is we're not asking him to compete at a high level, he just needs to take to progress us. If gets us breaking into the top ten, its a solid start.

 

If we are paying him £6m a year I'd say he's not being brought in to make up the numbers in the league. A lot of the comments suggest the guy doesn't know how to get a team to defend. That's worrying.

[SUPERTOON]

Just because he’s attack minded doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to get teams to defend. 

[Billy Pilgrim]

All he has to do is keep us up and make it look like we’re organised and I’ll be fine I think 

[The Prophet]

Its about evolution though, with the players at his disposal we can't be expecting too much. Staying up this season would be a start.

[Manxst]

3 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

If we are paying him £6m a year I'd say he's not being brought in to make up the numbers in the league. A lot of the comments suggest the guy doesn't know how to get a team to defend. That's worrying.

Compared to Bruce, the guy will be a Simeone/Mourinho/Capello hybrid. Bruce didn’t know how to get a team to do ANYthing other than “go play”. If a manager brings ANY tactics, I certainly won’t be complaining. 

[Tsunami]

I remember that Man U v Roma game. Man U weren’t great, Roma were an absolute shambles. The thought of a bloke who dressed as Zorro for a press conference doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence that he can get organise our group of players into a difficult side to score against.

It’ll be very interesting to see how he approaches things; gotta say I’m nervous.