mighty__mag Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Zaha, Almiron and ASM + a proper striker would scare the shite out of most defences. Yeah none of them score enough goals though. Would look amazing running and dribbling, but in terms of end product ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Zaha, Almiron and ASM + a proper striker would scare the shite out of most defences. Yeah none of them score enough goals though. Would look amazing running and dribbling, but in terms of end product ? I think the "proper striker" bit is key. Say Ronaldo 96-97. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Zaha, Almiron and ASM + a proper striker would scare the shite out of most defences. Yeah none of them score enough goals though. Would look amazing running and dribbling, but in terms of end product ? I think the "proper striker" bit is key. Say Ronaldo 96-97. Have you just plucked possibly the best season from one of the three greatest players of all time and said "that's what we need"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Zaha, Almiron and ASM + a proper striker would scare the shite out of most defences. Yeah none of them score enough goals though. Would look amazing running and dribbling, but in terms of end product ? I think the "proper striker" bit is key. Say Ronaldo 96-97. Have you just plucked possibly the best season from one of the three greatest players of all time and said "that's what we need"? Yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 That year where Messi scored 90 goals. Something like that, ideally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 A proven 1 in 3 striker proven as in more than one season or more than one team. Ideally we would have a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 number 10 to back them up but being very wishful. I also don't have any names but surely that is a realistic goal if spending around the 60/70 million mark again the budget spend is total guess work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Get Cronaldo in. Now he's worth the £600kpw, unlike bale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? I was thinking about this actually. If you assume the likes of Kane etc. are well beyond us which they are who would people go for in the £50m or more sort of bracket to take us on very quickly? Obviously would need to be someone on the way up from France, Spain or Germany I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Martínez. The answer is Lautaro Martínez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? I was thinking about this actually. If you assume the likes of Kane etc. are well beyond us which they are who would people go for in the £50m or more sort of bracket to take us on very quickly? Obviously would need to be someone on the way up from France, Spain or Germany I guess. I am sure I read Arsenal want to move on Alexandre Lacazette who looking at his stats has been a 1-3 striker for them since he has been there, 29 this month good enough for us? Good buy depending on price? Depending on manager/formation etc you either need two strikers or a striker and a number 10, don't mind the idea of buying an older player in one position and a hot prospect in the other. However have to be realistic as some players will simply not move for money and want European football which we are no where near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. That's the problem - scouting is so good these days that up-and-coming players get snapped up at 18/19, put on massive wages - Haaland, Moise Kean, Martial, Mbappe. There's no one in the championship good enough to make the step up and the bottom half of the PL is slim pickings as well. Maybe an older player like Giroud or Rondon could work as a stop-gap? My knowledge of European and world football is crap since i stopped playing football manager so i'm sure there must be some names out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? I was thinking about this actually. If you assume the likes of Kane etc. are well beyond us which they are who would people go for in the £50m or more sort of bracket to take us on very quickly? Obviously would need to be someone on the way up from France, Spain or Germany I guess. That's where having Rafa back would pay dividends - he seems to have a massive knowledge of players/leagues and which players would fit into his system effectively, regardless of age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. Agree with this. Should be able to pick up a 30-32 yr old striker of pedigree for a reasonable price, especially post-Covid where clubs will be keen to get some income. Players in their early 30s are still in their prime, but often clubs want to move them on so they can invest in younger talents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. That's the problem - scouting is so good these days that up-and-coming players get snapped up at 18/19, put on massive wages - Haaland, Moise Kean, Martial, Mbappe. There's no one in the championship good enough to make the step up and the bottom half of the PL is slim pickings as well. Maybe an older player like Giroud or Rondon could work as a stop-gap? My knowledge of European and world football is crap since i stopped playing football manager so i'm sure there must be some names out there. Certainly not disagreeing about the youth they are either already silly prices with little to no experience/consistency or are already playing at a club that is deemed next level either challenging for honours in their home leagues or in Europe. However not all players get a chance to play in these big clubs always moving onto the next hot property that always lends to some of them moving away from becoming disillusioned or wanting that pay increase. I don't see a lot of football now I am a dad of 2 little ones but I do know we have a better chance attracting and find them with a better manager and more money on the table for the potential selling club and the player themselves. When he hear release clauses of 60/70/80 million based on a budget suggested of 150/200 it is possible to bid for these players and not break the bank (if they want to move to you of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Martínez. The answer is Lautaro Martínez. Awesome player. Will take us a few years of relative success post takeover to be able to attract players like him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loki679 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What's HTT gonna do if we sign an actual Mexican? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carrick18 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I'm all for this. The sight of half-a-dozen Newcastle shirts when I have a kick-about in New York is exactly what I want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What's HTT gonna do if we sign an actual Mexican? Start a hilarious in-joke about him being Brazilian? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 How many proven 1 in 2 or 1 in 3 strikers of a decent age are there about at the moment? Are there any that are realistically going to come to us? If you mean risk free under say under 27 and already playing in the premier league then no chance and no one I also would suggest if your a 1 in 2 striker you will already be at a "next level" club on great wages so unless its something like falling out with a manager your unlikely to get one unless you unearth a gem. If you mean going for someone either older (that we would hands down dismiss in the past) or someone from the other leagues who may move for a wage boost and there being a risk they do not replicate the same form I would argue there must be players out there like that. Especially if we have an increased budget for that position as a lot of times our unwillingness to go for older or pay a premium have led to us dismiss players. Agree with this. Should be able to pick up a 30-32 yr old striker of pedigree for a reasonable price, especially post-Covid where clubs will be keen to get some income. Players in their early 30s are still in their prime, but often clubs want to move them on so they can invest in younger talents. its important to weigh up positive and negatives you don't want journeymen you don't want to be offering long deals to 32/33 year olds on massive wages as you cannot shift them. Accepting your not going to turn a profit on an older player but that's not to say a 30/31/32 year old cannot add value to your squad. If the big clubs move onto the next 22/23 year old break out star that should be leaving an ideal opportunity to take their older stars finding themselves down the pecking order. If we can get that and the next big thing as well then great but all about being realistic and still a little cautious in our signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What's HTT gonna do if we sign an actual Mexican? Start a hilarious in-joke about him being Brazilian? and then keep banging it out relentlessly in a tragic belief that it's building his online rep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 What's HTT gonna do if we sign an actual Mexican? Start a hilarious in-joke about him being Brazilian? Take out one word and you're probably right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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