gazza ladra Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Positives: travelling support That's it, got nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Needs to be in the first week of January as well True, but how we've set up so far tells me Eddie is not a liker of that (a DM). I mean why would you play Willock and Shelvey and not a DM behind them, especially when you have Hayden available. Seems daft like. Edited December 12, 2021 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Playing those 2 in there is suicidal. I’m like a broken record but our terrible centre half’s need protection. They get very little with a two man midfield anyways it only compounds the issue when those two are Shelvey and Wilock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 SanToons said nowt wrong like, he's frustrated because we've been shite for as far back as we can remember and Howe's improvements have been marginal at best. The alternative is we keep going "wow our players are bad" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We are so weak in the tackle and have no street savvy about us. Still, just got to hope other teams lose when we lose, so it keeps it close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Too early post match to say called it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 You can't play at this level with no players that can control the ball in midfield, the team is full of players who want to run with the ball and then you got Shelvey walking around behind them hardly utting in any effort, and when you got the average defenders we've got your just asking to be destroyed, god help us in the next two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, KaKa said: Terrible result, but it's so clear what needs changing. Think Howe will figure it out. Rough day, but better to come. Still certain of that. It didn't need to be that embarrassing. The only one I have any empathy for is Howe and the mess our new owners have to unfuck. It's wild that most of these players have been together multiple seasons, yet seemingly have no clue how to play cohesively. What's most disappointing is any optimism that had come from our takeover, is the realization at how garbage our squad, mentality and poorly mismanaged this club has been for most of my adulthood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: I’m like a broken record but our terrible centre half’s need protection. They get very little with a two man midfield anyways it only compounds the issue when those two are Shelvey and Wilock. I agree but look on the bench, who would you put in CM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: SanToons said nowt wrong like, he's frustrated because we've been shite for as far back as we can remember and Howe's improvements have been marginal at best. The alternative is we keep going "wow our players are bad" That's part of it mind, our players are terrible. Brainless as hell a lot of the time. Edited December 13, 2021 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, ManDoon said: @54 I’ve literally not even posted much in the match threads as I’ve been at matches? Can you point out where I’ve been relentlessly negative please? I was after Chelsea because I was at the game. I’m not being a dick but what are you referring to?? You are being like a 12 year old it’s embarrassing. We started ok, got a decision against and were pretty shit after that, mainly toothless. You’d think it was like playing under Bruce still reading your shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Awaymag said: I agree but look on the bench, who would you put in CM? We have to go with a 3 man midfield surely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Aye shyte, I didnt think we would get a good thrashing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Thomson Mouse said: You are being like a 12 year old it’s embarrassing. We started ok, got a decision against and were pretty shit after that, mainly toothless. You’d think it was like playing under Bruce still reading your shite It was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Yeah at least Shelvey can occasionally tackle and has some vision. Willock is killing us in there. He can’t play there Yeah, Howe wants someone that can get up and down the pitch in that role, and Willock has the athleticism for it, but he doesn't have the know how or the physicality at all. I think he should give Hendrick a shot at it personally, as he's more experienced playing that sort of role and has done it internationally. It still won't be perfect, but we just need someone that isn't completely clueless in that role. Think Shelvey has done really well, considering he's been partnered by Willock in there, who is causing problems both defensively and going forward. He's been a nightmare. The only other option would be trying a three man midfield, which he changed to at half time, but we never got to see it for long enough as they scored soon after the half, and then subs were made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Awaymag said: I agree but look on the bench, who would you put in CM? Hayden and his flaws is the only one we have capable of offering the needed protection. We are bad so playing with such a midfield away against teams who are better than us is asking for it. It’s the same as the Arsenal game. These teams don’t even have to play well to make us look bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: Positives: travelling support That's it, got nothing else. How many points is this worth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, NEEJ said: I think I'd rather watch another 90 minutes of that shite than carry on reading this thread, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Says the happy clapper, we lost 4-0. Ironic you accuse me of acting like a 12 year old when you lack basic reading comprehension. Had a drink again? Anyway ignore list. Leave it at that You can fuck off he drink thing, nice of you to get personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Nobody said: Since coming in, he's changed Darlow for Dubrabka, Ritchie for Lewis, Manquillo has come in instead of Murphy, Schär instead of Clark. Changed half the starting eleven compared to his first game in charge He has changed the team substantially. However we are no better than we were under Bruce and don't have anymore points than I expect Bruce would have got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: You can't play at this level with no players that can control the ball in midfield, the team is full of players who want to run with the ball and then you got Shelvey walking around behind them hardly utting in any effort, and when you got the average defenders we've got your just asking to be destroyed, god help us in the next two games. This is the main concern for me. Look at the difference it made for Leicester to have Tielemans back. Someone in this thread posted the central midfielders we had during the two seasons we were relegated and it really shows how incredibly important it is we get proven quality central midfielder(s) in January. Edited December 12, 2021 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: These haven’t kept a clean sheet in 21 games "Cue, Newcastle!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Away Toon said: He has changed the team substantially. However we are no better than we were under Bruce and don't have anymore points than I expect Bruce would have got. Are you having a pop at EH ? Because if you are get to fuck . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: Positives: travelling support That's it, got nothing else. Our collective ringpiece will be nice and loose for the games coming up. Edited December 12, 2021 by loki679 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, ManDoon said: Personal because you personally abused the fuck out of me when you were pissed? aye. Go fuck yourself. Really, how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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