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Calvert-Lewin as in the 25 year-old England international? Would be a good, potentially very good, signing imo. Huge upgrade from Wood.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Collage said:

Calvert-Lewin as in the 25 year-old current England international? Would be a good, potentially very good, signing imo. Huge upgrade from Wood.

Yep, his fitness is the only question. Even then, you have to take risks from time to time.

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36 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Think a lot of people are really underrating Tarkowski here. He’s a very decent player.

 

If he's replacing Fernandez (33 and clearly physically finished) or Lascelles as third/fourth choice then it's clearly not a bad move by any means. He's more capable than both.

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3 minutes ago, Collage said:

Calvert-Lewin as in the 25 year-old England international? Would be a good, potentially very good, signing imo. Huge upgrade from Wood.

 

 

 

 

Out of the 3 mentioned he is probably the one who I wouldn't be too bothered by as I do rate him. Injury problems would be a major concern though especially with Wilson as well. To say he would be an upgrade on Wood is obvious as I think Wood is absolutely terrible and if someone offers £10m I would take it instantly. We can aim higher than DCL as well though imo

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1 minute ago, Thumbheed said:

Schär, Tarkovski, Burn and a money signing would be incredible depth wise for centre halves. 

 

Think people forget building a squad is more important than building a first team. 

 

I think most agree with that, it’s if Tarkowski would be first choice it would be an issue.

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39 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Think a lot of people are really underrating Tarkowski here. He’s a very decent player.

 

I always thought he was a decent defender until I heard a few Burnley fans on the 5 live phone in saying he was awful. Since then I watched him and thought he was overrated. Has looked a lot better recently under Jackson so maybe he was going stale there under Dyche. Pulled his hamstring now so probably played his last game for Burnley. 

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31 minutes ago, STM said:

Why is everything always so fucking binary. Tarkowski is either good or shit, right? 

 

No, he's a solid centre back, who's not great on the ball but pretty decent off the ball. He's also a leader and a good character, in keeping with the sort of people we have already signed.

 

He's better than Clark, Fernandez and Lascelles. He's comparable in standard to Burn (who people also criticised when we signed him).

 

Also, anyone saying "he's been crap for Burnley this year", is kinda missing the point. I dare say you could stick Baresi in the Burnley back four and you would see the odd wrinkle.

 

Here's the key, he's on a free transfer and while signing players for nowt shouldn't be our strategy, it's certainly a huge plus point in this case. Signing Tarkowski on a bosman would minimum add a decent 4th choice to our squad, but also has the potential to unlock other avenues because it may allow us to sell Lascelles.

 

The caveat to all this, is that signing Tarkowski on a free should be an extra, not an alternative to signing a top quality progressive CB.

 

The only other thing I would add, is that any potential signing should be viewed through the prism of a full pre season of Eddie Howes coaching, which I would bet will get an extra 10% out of anyone.

 

It's not "fucking binary" though is it. Those people who think he's shit, just think he's shit? He's been massively on the decline this season (much like the other player I'm gonna stop mentioning).

 

I'd dread seeing him play for us, even in a cup competition. Especially the system Howe is trying to bring in. We need players who are more comfortable on the ball than Lascelles is, or Tarkowski is. Even if they are only "4th choice", they'll still end up playing a fair bit for us.

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Despite their complete disaster of a year I do consider Everton as a top ten (ish) team in this league, or should be given their support and spend/infrastructure. It would be glorious to be taking players (that arent finished) away from clubs in the top 10 again.

 

Still think there is better value than DLC but I'd certainly be happy with him.

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1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Comfortable on the ball ? Where you getting that from ?


Played further up the field in his younger days and does look comfortable on the ball especially for a such an aerially dominant cb?

 

:lol: Anyway, I feel like I’ve batted for Tarkowski enough. 

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In my opinion 

 

We need to have a better central defensive trio of burns / schar / tarkowski 

 

that’s if we want to push on 

 

All 3 decent squad players and ok against Bottom 7 or 8 teams 

 

need more quality if we want to push on / aim for top 7/8 ?

 

if we brought in Tarkowski plus another (better / higher quality centre half) 

 

Then yes ?? 
 

we can then look to sell Clarke / Lascelles / Fernandez 

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Prophet said:

 

He'd be an utterly pointless buy. An average, ageing CB that we would need to move on in a couple of years.

 

Same was said for Burn before he moved here.....and we paid money for him.. 

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2 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Same was said for Burn before he moved here.....and we paid money for him.. 

 

I could be mistaken, but I thought the Burn buy was generally well received?

 

I'll back any player who signs and I  trust Howe to get the best out of them, I just don't don't see what quality Tarkowski brings to the squad that we don't already have. I think at this stage in his career he's at a similar standard to Lascelles.

 

 

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As most have said Tarkowski for FREE is a good signing. He becomes a squad/rotation player and would probably make only 15apps or so next season. I'd be all for this especially as Fernandez, Clark and Lascelles will hopefully all leave.

 

He's dependable and is a leader also, no brainer if he's happy being 3rd/4th choice (depending on formation we play, could be 3 at back ofcourse)

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7 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I could be mistaken, but I thought the Burn buy was generally well received?

 

I'll back any player who signs and I  trust Howe to get the best out of them, I just don't don't see what quality Tarkowski brings to the squad that we don't already have. I think at this stage in his career he's at a similar standard to Lascelles.

 

 

 

Very much mixed, especially when there was talk of 30-40m foreign defenders coming in. 

 

Different qualities but he's on par with Burn & Schar. If Howe can get him back to 2 year ago then ges better than both, and I expect thst to happen with Howe's record here.

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28 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

If be shocked if he agrees to come as backup, if expect him to go and be first choice elsewhere.

Thing is we don’t really have backups under Howe. If you deserve your spot you’re in the starting XI. Look at how long Bruno had to wait to get a kick.
 

Tarkowski has been very keen to break into the England squad - it’s why he’s leaving Burnley - so I don’t think it’s a hard sell. It’s a meritocracy. If he earns it he’ll start.

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2 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

It's not "fucking binary" though is it. Those people who think he's shit, just think he's shit? He's been massively on the decline this season (much like the other player I'm gonna stop mentioning).

 

I'd dread seeing him play for us, even in a cup competition. Especially the system Howe is trying to bring in. We need players who are more comfortable on the ball than Lascelles is, or Tarkowski is. Even if they are only "4th choice", they'll still end up playing a fair bit for us.

So in a scenario when we have 2 centre backs injured, which is hardly unheard of and in fact quite likely at some point of the season, you would rather find a kid from the U23s come into our first team? 

 

Unless you are suggesting we sign 2 quality centre backs, which are going to set us back the best part of 60m quid?

 

I'd like to see how you would structure the defensive side of our squad, whilst also having enough money in reserve to buy attacking players, which should be the priority.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Get rid of Lascelles and Clarke, bring in Gvardiol/ Ndicka and Tarkowski. Hard not to see this as huge upgrade alongside Schar and Burn.

 

 

 

 

It does make alot of sense, Lascelles would command a fee of some sort, less so Fernandez and Clark but selling a player for X amount and bringing a similar (yet ultimately better) player for free is a no brainer. 

 

He wouldn't be the only CB to come in but would add Premier League experience to the squad and he's reliable if unspectacular.

 

 

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