Tiresias Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) As much as being ruthless and getting a better left back appeals, there are better places to focus our spending when he is available and a sure thing. I also think there is something to be said for being loyal to players who have done very well for you, keeps dressing rooms and fans on side on same page. Edited May 23, 2022 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Wonder if we are one of the 3: SkyBet seem to think so. We're second favourites (behind Brentford themselves) to sign him for next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I'd like Targett myself, but if Howe thinks he's not good enough, then wow, we must be setting the bar very high. So high that the budget must be very large and exciting times are ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiresias said: As much as being ruthless and getting a better left back appeals, there are better places to focus our spending when he is available and a sure thing. I also think there is something to be said for being loyal to players who have done very well for you, keeps dressing rooms and fans on side on same page. I know what you mean. Like, sure, Lodi may be better than Targett. But say he is £25m, is he really £10m quids worth better than him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Imagine Eriksen playing balls to Trippier and Lodl on the overlap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 What was the agreed fee for Targett again, £13m? It's amazing value for someone who is pretty much at least 7/10 every game and already part of the squad. They must really rate Lodi to potentially go out and spend a lot more on him and hope he can settle in and defend well in this league and a back 4. I wonder if Howe wants the flexibility to switch to a 3atb at times? Or maybe similar to how Liverpool setup with narrower wide forwards and really attacking fullbacks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Targett would be stupid to sign to compete with someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gaztoon Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Targett would be stupid to sign to compete with someone else. Every top team as positions covered by atleast two good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Do people think we will have finalised plans and targets for the window, or it will still be an ongoing process ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Finalised a shortlist for all the positions but I still think things can change as the window goes on, depending on what movement happens elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Do people think we will have finalised plans and targets for the window, or it will still be an ongoing process ? I reckon it will be like Jan. Where we will have priority positions, with a good few names on the list for each position that we work our way through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’d prefer Targett to Lodi tbh. Not convinced that Lodi could do a decent enough job defensively in a back 4. Honestly it’s a bold/ possibly foolish move not going for Targett at the prices being mentioned imo. If you watch Man City or Liverpool, one of the reasons they are such an effective passing team is because their full backs are almost better out wide than most teams actual wingers. If we want to play football like that we will need to upgrade. Basically we want a left sided version of Trippier. Targett's a fantastic defender but he's not going to give you what Trippier does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Targett would be stupid to sign to compete with someone else. I think it's part of the reason him signing hasn't been as straightforward as anticipated. I think it's part of the conversation Howe will want to have with him regarding him staying on, which is that Howe would look to sign another fullback like Lodi that is more attack minded to rotate with him, with Targett being more of a defensive specialist when we face teams that will challenge us more. If Targett is fine with that then he'll likely be signed with Lodi I think, and Lewis will then be moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Pretty exciting to have 2 really attack minded fullbacks, and he’s very quick which is something our defence is crying out for. He’s quick but very erratic and defensively quite suspect; also despite his superior speed, I don’t think he’s got enough about him physically to excel in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, TRon said: If you watch Man City or Liverpool, one of the reasons they are such an effective passing team is because their full backs are almost better out wide than most teams actual wingers. If we want to play football like that we will need to upgrade. Basically we want a left sided version of Trippier. Targett's a fantastic defender but he's not going to give you what Trippier does. The guy has never managed more than 2 assists a season. Comparing him to Man City and Liverpool fullbacks is overrating Lodi massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, TRon said: If you watch Man City or Liverpool, one of the reasons they are such an effective passing team is because their full backs are almost better out wide than most teams actual wingers. If we want to play football like that we will need to upgrade. Basically we want a left sided version of Trippier. Targett's a fantastic defender but he's not going to give you what Trippier does. Largely not true of City. Their fullbacks spend a lot of time in CM positions. And they have the wide forwards super wide a lot of the team to stretch play. Liverpool are different. The fullbacks are forward and wide. We seem to be going the Liverpool route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, McCormick said: He’s quick but very erratic and defensively quite suspect; also despite his superior speed, I don’t think he’s got enough about him physically to excel in the premier league. Not comparing anyone here but that reminds me of Yedlin. Speed is not everything if you are out of position regulary. Lodi would be a gamble, he may be good but Targett is tested and we know what be brings. Price is low. Buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, McCormick said: The guy has never managed more than 2 assists a season. Comparing him to Man City and Liverpool fullbacks is overrating Lodi massively. He’s got two in the league and two in the champions league this year? https://fbref.com/en/players/ed9f7cfe/Renan-Lodi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRon Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, McCormick said: The guy has never managed more than 2 assists a season. Comparing him to Man City and Liverpool fullbacks is overrating Lodi massively. I haven't seen him tbf, just assuming he is good because Howe seems to want him. Of course there maybe nothing in it and all this is just paper talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: He’s got two in the league and two in the champions league this year? https://fbref.com/en/players/ed9f7cfe/Renan-Lodi Apologies. I meant a league season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I’ve not seen a lot of Lodl, but I find it hard to believe he struggles defensively in a Simeone team tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigValley Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Can Targett also play left in a back 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I’d be gutted if we didn’t sign Targett like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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