TRon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Well they were set to spend 30m on Ekitike, so at the very least that’s what they’ll spend on an alternative. I wouldn’t rule out us going back in for him.. the kid seems to be portraying an image like he’s happy to stay where he is etc but apart from spurious rumours about PSG, there’s no other serious offers for him at the moment. I think the Ekiteke thing is done. It's becoming more and more clear that he doesn't want to come, even if he relented on deadline day you'd have to question bringing in someone who's heart is elsewhere. We'll be looking at alternatives now, Hugo can play another season at Reimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ikon said: Clark to Sheffield. red & white or blue & white? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: It's the great NO forum mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Initial reaction based on a different black winger coming from Chelsea - inconsistent winger trope. Gordon - hard working good English lad - maybe not so talented trope. Skin colour has nothing to do with any reaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Hudson-Odoi would be a no from me. Only got into that Chelsea team because Lampard couldn't buy anyone else and once they could he barely played. He's not a top half Premier League level player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 So you wouldn't have him because when he was 17 he wasn't good enough? Eh? He's 21 and is going to be a top flight player for a while to come. If we can get him for the right price we should snap their hands off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, JP said: Skin colour has nothing to do with any reaction? He's being an edgelord, it's kind of his thing here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 The diaby links seem to be the new Ekitike "saga" daily stories on it now. Hopefully it ends better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: I don’t get the (black) reference? unless it’s your attempt at humour or racism ? I think he's trying to imply that because I compared CHO to Atsu and Gordon to Milner, that I'm somehow a racist. Which is funny because nobody else seemingly thought that and by pointing it out has actually looked racist himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, jack j said: The diaby links seem to be the new Ekitike "saga" daily stories on it now. Hopefully it ends better Still nothing concrete mind, other than we're interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Be interesting to hear from Eddie after the Gateshead friendly on Saturday. Wonder if he goes down the 'spinning plates' way that Bruce used to every transfer window The relief of knowing Ashley/Charnley/Bruce are no longer associated with our football club! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Is Clark off then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mazzy said: Hudson-Odoi would be a no from me. Only got into that Chelsea team because Lampard couldn't buy anyone else and once they could he barely played. He's not a top half Premier League level player. Shockingly bad take on Hudson-Odoi, and incredibly poor reasoning for writing him off as a top half player at 21 years old. There's no way you've actually watched him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, KaKa said: Shockingly bad take on Hudson-Odoi, and incredibly poor reasoning for writing him off as a top half player at 21 years old. There's no way you've actually watched him play. Not that long ago Chelsea were knocking back bids from Bayern for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Unless we buy a top class midfielder, preferably defensive minded and mobile we'll continue to struggle to control games and keep possession. When was the last time we averaged 50% in a season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 It will be more straight forward to deal with the Germans.. they’ll have a price and probably some wiggle room, if they were totally set on keeping him we’d have already gotten a no. Think this will happen. But maybe after the friendlies have started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Unless we buy a top class midfielder, preferably defensive minded and mobile we'll continue to struggle to control games and keep possession. When was the last time we averaged 50% in a season? Shhh don't mention that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: It will be more straight forward to deal with the Germans.. they’ll have a price and probably some wiggle room, if they were totally set on keeping him we’d have already gotten a no. Think this will happen. But maybe after the friendlies have started. don’t know what it is but German to German transfers always seem real good value - for example say Bayern wanted Diaby - they could probs get him for 40m - anyone abroad is charged higher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Andybiotics said: Not that long ago Chelsea were knocking back bids from Bayern for him. The money in the game in this country has made people and clubs very lazy when looking at younger players. One of my favourite things about Howe is that he has always looked closely at younger players with talent not getting an opportunity in this country. I think it's a huge area that can be exploited especially with the so called top six clubs that let so many talents go way too early. The German clubs started taking advantage of it, and both AC Milan and Roma benefitted from it last season now too. We have to keep a close eye on these sorts of players too. I'm sure if we had been taken over a year earlier and the club had gone for Tomori and Abraham there would have been people on here bitching. To buy those two now you would need to spend over £100 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Speaking on young players; I think a few of us are writing off Willock a bit too soon as well. I get that his passing has been a bit shaky but the guy is still 21 and had just made a big move up from London, had no preseason and by all accounts was dealing with some injuries. Despite that he still played well enough to keep Bruno out of the team for a bit and we achieved a lot of great results with him starting. This could be his season, hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I'd honestly love to see Willock considered for a wide right role too if we needed him to be a wide forward to press and make runs into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, McCormick said: Speaking on young players; I think a few of us are writing off Willock a bit too soon as well. I get that his passing has been a bit shaky but the guy is still 21 and had just made a big move up from London, had no preseason and by all accounts was dealing with some injuries. Despite that he still played well enough to keep Bruno out of the team for a bit and we achieved a lot of great results with him starting. This could be his season, hopefully. I think Willock under Howe will eventually become a main player in the team. Probably won't start this season, but he's going to play a lot and eventually he'll break into the team. Still just 22 years old and so time is on his side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JP said: Skin colour has nothing to do with any reaction? How many white players get compared to Christian Atsu? Players of African heritage are most often compared to other players of African heritage. Much like we compare Frenchmen to Frenchmen. It's lazy though. The Atsu comparison is 100% lazy and wouldn't be said if CHO was a white Scandinavian with the exact same skillset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, TotalWar said: I find myself regularly thinking that Ikon is the best poster on this forum. Ikon makes a lot of sense and we clearly have both ends of the spectrum in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: How many white players get compared to Christian Atsu? Players of African heritage are most often compared to other players of African heritage. Much like we compare Frenchmen to Frenchmen. It's lazy though. The Atsu comparison is 100% lazy and wouldn't be said if CHO was a white Scandinavian with the exact same skillset. Have to say I didn’t read it like that at all. Thought the comparison of players nailed what I was thinking. And I am pretty sure it didn’t involve any casual racism. Just like a Kante is like (a better) Batty would have also been a good comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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