Ikon Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Madueke is out until the new year btw. Oh. Didn’t know this mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Think it was only the other day. He unfortunately seems very injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Timo! There's only one Timo etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ikon said: “Papers:” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakzz Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, PeepShow4life said: If Cornets buy out is 17.5m, that's a bargain at today's prices. Thats an very low buy out price in todays market. So if they think its high its very wierd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, snakzz said: Thats an very low buy out price in todays market. So if they think its high its very wierd. Because Burnley are desperate for money and Everton who are next closest to signing him have also asked for the buy out to be reduced/restructured as they are skint also. All we need to do is match or slightly improve the restructure that Everton are offering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I doubt we're going to piss about over fees if there's no reason for it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Would be delighted with Werner. He'd be like Bellamy was for us, without the annoying personality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comegetasample Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 If he (Werner) did come here, and I'm not getting my tail up about it as its highly unlikely, where would he play? You can't drop Wilson, so is it RW inside forward then upfront when Wilson gets injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Comegetasample said: If he (Werner) did come here, and I'm not getting my tail up about it as its highly unlikely, where would he play? You can't drop Wilson, so is it RW inside forward then upfront when Wilson gets injured? That’s how I’d see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Why are so many people so keen on Werner given how badly he's failed in England so far? He's been here 2 seasons now. Not a loaded question, genuinely interested in the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I think most the attacking/midfield signings we have been linked with seem to be able to play a couple of positions bar DCL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, elbee909 said: There seems to be a concerted effort to signpost via the media how we won't be a pushover in the marketplace. Which I get, but it feels a little overdone. Yep, but when push comes to shove it doesn’t hurt to be seen in this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Interpolic said: Why are so many people so keen on Werner given how badly he's failed in England so far? He's been here 2 seasons now. Not a loaded question, genuinely interested in the answer. I’m not keen on him at all but I’d prefer him to our current incumbents. He is very quick and has a good engine. Also has a career to resuscitate so may have the hunger for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Interpolic said: Why are so many people so keen on Werner given how badly he's failed in England so far? He's been here 2 seasons now. Not a loaded question, genuinely interested in the answer. He’s ‘failed’ at Chelsea but a shitload of players have also supposedly failed there, including several current world class stars. His form and stats at Leipzig say that there’s a good player there who could make it given the right club/coaching/system etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Interpolic said: Why are so many people so keen on Werner given how badly he's failed in England so far? He's been here 2 seasons now. Not a loaded question, genuinely interested in the answer. I don’t profess to know much about him, beyond the occasional highlights and internationals. His experience and demonstrated quality—pretty much 1 in 2 for Germany (24 goals, 53 games) and 88 top flight goals (183 games)— makes me confident that he would be an incredible asset. I also believe that Howe could/would get the best out of him. To get a striker like that on loan not only fills a glaring gap in our squad but frees up finances for outright purchases elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: He’s ‘failed’ at Chelsea but a shitload of players have also supposedly failed there, including several current world class stars. His form and stats at Leipzig say that there’s a good player there who could make it given the right club/coaching/system etc. Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku - all buried in the Chelsea graveyard but thriving elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Manxst said: He’s ‘failed’ at Chelsea but a shitload of players have also supposedly failed there, including several current world class stars. His form and stats at Leipzig say that there’s a good player there who could make it given the right club/coaching/system etc. Salah and De Bruyne failed there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The way international football is now, especially in UEFA, I'm inclined to say that his international record isn't that good for Germany's main CF. Gnabry has 20 in 34 from the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Nucasol said: Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku - all buried in the Chelsea graveyard but thriving elsewhere. Just got in before me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Werner is absolutely rapid, that's why he would be a successful signing. Look, he isn't going to score the same number as Wilson, unless he can replicate his form from Germany but he's a very good footballer, plays on the shoulder and would thrive off Brunos through balls. Chelsea as a club are poison to a players confidence because they allow zero time for development. If you aren't up to it on day one, they just sign a replacement. Werner would be a main man here and can play in any of our front 3 positions. He's also young enough to be coached. He's absolutely an Eddie Howe type player. He was one of the players I'd picked out as perfect for us before the window but I've always thought his wages would make it impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Players can fail for various kind of reasons. Sometimes it’s due to the team, sometimes it’s due to the opponent and sometimes it’s due to the player himself Werner, unfortunately, is the third type of player. If you take a look at his history, and some of his former managers comments, you will know that he is technically flawed/limited and unless you have a system that gives him the best environment to play, he will be a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Even when you watch him for Chelsea, his runs in behind a brilliant and he always gets in position to score. He’s still on about 30 goal involvements in less than 100 games for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) He really isn't a very good footballer though. Not in the truest sense technically. His technique is subpar for a player at his level. Watch the highlights of his goals at Chelsea - they're all awkward tap ins or shots hit as hard as possible straight at the goal (some are legitimately bad goalkeeping). These are the ones where he got away with poor technique. He is quick and he does work really hard - which are attributes that I respect. And he can cover wide positions too with pace and running. So I do see the logic of targeting him from tactical point of view - particularly if we are playing a counter attacking style. And I'd rather see him play than Chris Wood of course. Edited July 31, 2022 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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