Kid Icarus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Lingard would replace Fraser or, dare I say it, ASM, surely? Even if we move to 3-4-3 he'll pick up one of the wing spots. He's more of an attacking midfielder/second striker now. Howe likes to play a 442 with a diamond, I would expect that he'd be the attacking point of that diamond and ASM would be on the left, with Fraser or someone else on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Is Alfonso Leocadio legit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yes to Lindgard but we still desperately need a combative midfielder who can pass, and at least one CB. Expected better of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He's more of an attacking midfielder/second striker now. Howe likes to play a 442 with a diamond, I would expect that he'd be the attacking point of that diamond and ASM would be on the left, with Fraser or someone else on the right. That would somehow be worse than our current midfield. I thought he regularly played a 4-4-1-1, with genuine wide men and more of a second striker off the front man, not just an extra midfielder or a 10. Who was the England manager that went with the diamond quite often? Mind has gone blank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: That would somehow be worse than our current midfield. I thought he regularly played a 4-4-1-1, with genuine wide men and more of a second striker off the front man, not just an extra midfielder or a 10. Who was the England manager that went with the diamond quite often? Mind has gone blank. When Howe came in and a Bournemouth fan was posting on here, they mentioned that he changes formations but that the main two were I think 442 with a diamond and 4411. In a 4411 I would expect Lingard to be the 1 behind the striker or in midfield with Joelinton as the 1 who gets back and supports the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: That would somehow be worse than our current midfield. I thought he regularly played a 4-4-1-1, with genuine wide men and more of a second striker off the front man, not just an extra midfielder or a 10. Who was the England manager that went with the diamond quite often? Mind has gone blank. Hoddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 We are soon inside the last part of the transfer window and its clearly allowed to criticism what has happened here. EVERYONE knew we had to upgrade in close to all areas om the field to keep the place and what we have received so far are 2 players? 1 major upgrade and one temp sollution for an invited player? I am hugely disappointed and the relegation is currently almost guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: When Howe came in and a Bournemouth fan was posting on here, they mentioned that he changes formations but that the main two were I think 442 with a diamond and 4411. In a 4411 I would expect Lingard to be the 1 behind the striker or in midfield with Joelinton as the 1 who gets back and supports the midfield. His adherence to 4 at the back is hamstringing us at the moment. Convinced that a back 5 is the way to see us safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, toon25 said: His adherence to 4 at the back is hamstringing us at the moment. Convinced that a back 5 is the way to see us safe. I think that was one of the other formations he did use at Bournemouth but much less frequently. I do think it's the way forward though, I know Brentford scored 3 times (due to errors in some cases) but that was definitely the most cohesive football we've played under him and on another day or with Dubravka in goal that's a 3-1 or 3-2, but he hasn't played it at all since that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I do feel like he wants to go for 3 at the back and wing backs, would get the best out of Trippier and we've been linked with left backs who are very attack minded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: I've gone back and forth on Lingard but I'd certainly take him at this point. Where previously we've looked capable of being dangerous, I basically never feel confident that we're going to score now. It's Maxi or nowt unless Wood can establish himself, but even then the latter needs better service. If we're to continue with the set-up and style of play we've been seeing, the order of priority is, imo: CM/CDM critical CB high RW medium CAM medium CF no 2 medium LB low GKP summer If we're changing tack - for instance, going with three CBs and wing-backs (which, tbh, I've wondered if Howe has had in mind given then desire for two new CBs and a LB) - then we could probably mitigate not signing a Shelvey replacement. (for fun, as our work IT systems are kaput): Dubravka Carlos Fernandez Schar Trippier Gosens Shelvey Joelinton Lingard ASM Wood ... a la Rafa's 5-4-1 out of possession/3-4-3 in possession, with Lingard and Maxi as Almiron and Perez. All good bar Shelvey- just a massive whole in CM. Needs replacing ASAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Lingard could very well be the key to staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I must say I must have watched the career of a different Lingard Remember when he was a game off going a full season without a goal or an assist? Again I'd take him, but I don't think he'll be that transformative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: I must say I must have watched the career of a different Lingard Remember when he was a game off going a full season without a goal or an assist? Again I'd take him, but I don't think he'll be that transformative. It's a mixed bag, but imo he's been consistently very good when he plays for England and was at West Ham with a run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) He’s better than Fraser, Murphy and Almiron and is thus an upgrade on what we have. Edited January 19, 2022 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Seems like they are going to loan their way through the midfield in the final week? Idk. Or we’ve just not heard anything as it works around in the background. Clearly it isn’t this obvious - but I’d have sorted a deal for Ramsey on loan with option to buy. I’d have paid Gladbach to buy Zakaria now. I’d have done similar for Ginter too. I’d test Valencia on Soler given their well documented financial issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Nobody on here really has a clue about what is or isn't going on, I'm not sure why people get so riled up by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, KDT said: Nobody on here really has a clue about what is or isn't going on, I'm not sure why people get so riled up by it. Aye, I'm following it intensely, but I realise it's completely out of my control. There's still plenty of time left in the window and it's clear that we are working tirelessly. There's easily £100M+ still to spend, too, which will eventually translate to 3-4 players coming in that are significantly better than what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Think people just want to see some movement for sanity purposes. I think deep down everyone knows this was a difficult window but probably all underestimated how difficult it would be and our inability to get 2-3 more wins hasn’t helped anything at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, r0cafella said: He’s better than Fraser, Murphy and Almiron and is thus an upgrade on what we have. Can't really argue with that at the end of the day. All of them are taking up precious attacking slots and producing in maybe one game in five. If that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleturner Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 maybe they wait for february to buy players for netx year dont understand why nobody arrive whereas we need players , minimum 4 players you lost taking 3 points again watford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gaztoon Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Zapata was brilliant against city in the champs league a few months back.. Real handful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just wondering, who are the people who are traveling to meet clubs & players to get deals done? Is it Amanda and her hubby, others? Or is it mostly all done over the phone? ...or by fax? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Eriksen? I'd take a gamble on him and Ramsey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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