r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 And Apologies, I know my post sounds hyperbolic but I truly believe our midfield excels at nothing. The fact Joelinton (who isn’t a central midfielder) is our best one speaks volumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 If you look at our formation it’s basically a flat 3 in mid - Fraser wide - ASM on the other side - then you have Longstaff pressing (well attempting to) leaving the useless Shelvey exposed there’s no function to the mid - no structure - no tactical discipline - basically 5 individuals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) I disagree that Joelinton isn't a central midfielder like. I think he clearlly is. Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It’s got to the point now where we need to stop messing about and start putting daft bids in for top players, this current squad isn’t staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: I disagree that Joelinton isn't a central midfielder like. I think he clearlly is. He”s a left sided midfielder in a 3 - I agree the issue is that this leaves no room for a 10 We basically play a flat 3 - ASM on the left in his own - Fraser is there no make up the numbers - leaving an entire space between the mid and Wood - the solution isn’t to keep on crossing it to Wood - we need to play behind him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Plus who scores the goals bar Wilson/ASM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Kamara. Fofana Martial. Van der Beek. ASM Wood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: It’s got to the point now where we need to stop messing about and start putting daft bids in for top players, this current squad isn’t staying up. It doesn’t have to be top players, we just need better players and right now there are a lot of players way better than what we have even if they are not top players themselves. Look at Watford yesterday with their new CM signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) I don't even think he's necessarily a left sided centre mid, that's just where he's been playing. I cannot see any reason why Shelvey gets in ahead of the defence instead of him? Like watching Joelinton play I'm just not seeing what others are apparently seeing that suggests he needs to be the left of a centre 3? I think Shelvey needs to be on the right of a centre 3 if we insist on playing him as he can drift wide to find space. Like Longstaff was doing yesterday Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, HTT II said: It doesn’t have to be top players, we just need better players and right now there are a lot of players way better than what we have even if they are not top players themselves. Look at Watford yesterday with their new CM signing. The problem is unless we bid daft money clubs won’t sell, Botman for example , if we just put in a daft £50 million bid we will get him, who cares if he’s not worth that really, if we can spend £25 million on Wood money is obviously no issue. We need to stop messing about and worrying about overpaying and just get these deals done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Geogaddi said: The problem is unless we bid daft money clubs won’t sell, Botman for example , if we just put in a daft £50 million bid we will get him, who cares if he’s not worth that really, if we can spend £25 million on Wood money is obviously no issue. We need to stop messing about and worrying about overpaying and just get these deals done. Oh I agree, if it takes 50m to get him, do it, but again I’m saying we could improve on say Lascelles or Shelvey without having to go daft, as Watford have done for example. It probably says more about our poor scouting network or lack of and the incompetence of the team doing the whole recruitment and signing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I don't even think he's necessarily a left sided centre mid, that's just where he's been playing. I cannot see any reason why Shelvey gets in ahead of the defence instead of him? Like watching Joelinton play I'm just not seeing what others are apparently seeing that suggests he needs to be the left of a centre 3? I think Shelvey needs to be on the right of a centre 3 if we insist on playing him as he can drift wide to find space. Like Longstaff was doing yesterday The reason Joelinton is doing well in midfield is because he's strong in terms of protecting the ball and can drive from deep. However he cannot play Infront of the back four and start picking the ball off the defenders and starting attacks because his passing range is no where near good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wood I think will turn out to be a terrible signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, tgarve said: Wood I think will turn out to be a terrible signing He’ll do well for us in the Championship… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It’s ok if we bring someone else in. have him as 3rd choice but starting in a relegation battle… there’s a reason Burnley are barely ahead of us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 https://sport.sky.it/calciomercato/2022/01/15/gosens-atalanta-newcastle-calciomercato-news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Two new midfielders in this team, drop Joelinton, put a proper number 10 in. Joelinton only really looks good at the moment because the rest of them are shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 How I feel about our transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: The reason Joelinton is doing well in midfield is because he's strong in terms of protecting the ball and can drive from deep. However he cannot play Infront of the back four and start picking the ball off the defenders and starting attacks because his passing range is no where near good enough. Again not seen anything to suggest this is the case at all like, it just seems like something we're jumping to. His passing range is probably no worse than Kante's anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Two new midfielders in this team, drop Joelinton, put a proper number 10 in. Joelinton only really looks good at the moment because the rest of them are shite Completely disagree. He and Trippier are the only two worth keeping I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Again not seen anything to suggest this is the case at all like, it just seems like something we're jumping to. His passing range is probably no worse than Kante's anyway. He's also the starting point for a fair few counter attacking moves we've seen these past few weeks too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Two new midfielders in this team, drop Joelinton, put a proper number 10 in. Joelinton only really looks good at the moment because the rest of them are shite Drop Joelinton?! He's looked very good against very good opposition too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 We should definitely bring in Eriksen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 51 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Might have to go championship and scoop up players from Clubs who wont want to turn down the cash. Is there any standout dm`s in the Championship that you`ve noticed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Yesterday will increase activity, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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