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4 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said:

That Allan stat is mad, 73 minutes on the pitch as a midfielder and not one pass completed, i guess they were so frighted of Liverpool's press they just decided to surpass the midfield.

 

The whole Everton team only completed 90 passes during the whole 90 minutes.

 

3 of which would’ve been kick offs. Also periods of just passing it around the back four.

 

An average of 8 passes per player :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, triggs said:

First time seeing that and that's a pen IMO

 

In usual case I would say it is, but he’s a diving little cheat and for no reason initiates the contact himself, literally reaching backwards to tussle with Matip.

 

It’s one of those that is always given outside the box, but never given in it. Happens every game.

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Takes a massive step across Matip who barely touches him. Then chucks himself to the ground and there is an almighty tangle because of it. 
 

The first was a dive, he dives all the while. I don’t think this was. I thought it was him trying to be clever and you would say you see those given. But it would have been soft as fuck. 

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5 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Takes a massive step across Matip who barely touches him. Then chucks himself to the ground and there is an almighty tangle because of it. 
 

The first was a dive, he dives all the while. I don’t think this was. I thought it was him trying to be clever and you would say you see those given. But it would have been soft as fuck. 

 

When TAA got booked, it looked a nail on foul but the replay showed ratface jumped over him, no contact was made and he threw himself to the floor.

 

Thick as fuck too, he was in if he hadn’t have done that. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Ratface has completely lost his head, sharing a video of himself diving (via a dodgy stream) to criticise the refereeing decisions.

 

Surprised he’s not been told to take it down, for various reasons.

 

 

Tbf that could've been given as a pen. 

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I was amazed how every pundit considered that a 100% nailed on penalty. It would have been very soft and you definitely don't get those at Anfield (especially when you've established yourself as one of the worst divers in the league in your very short career).

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It could, but the ref didn't give it and it was debatable enough not to be a clear & obvious error for VAR to overturn it. The different opinions on here suggest that.

 

If it had been given, I wouldn't expect VAR to overturn that decision either.

 

It's one of those that falls into judgement territory so it is hardly some howling injustice.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think it was a pen. Didn't think it was a clear enough foul and that fingermouse was play-acting. Had it been given I'd have thought it a bit soft, but would probably have shrugged and thought 'yeah, fine'.

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His reputation as a horrible diving rat probably played some part in the decision. 

 

If you try and cheat as much as he does it's hard to complain when borderline calls go against you. 

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4 hours ago, Abacus said:

It could, but the ref didn't give it and it was debatable enough not to be a clear & obvious error for VAR to overturn it. The different opinions on here suggest that.

 

If it had been given, I wouldn't expect VAR to overturn that decision either.

 

It's one of those that falls into judgement territory so it is hardly some howling injustice.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think it was a pen. Didn't think it was a clear enough foul and that fingermouse was play-acting. Had it been given I'd have thought it a bit soft, but would probably have shrugged and thought 'yeah, fine'.


Falls easily into the category of pens that are given to the top 6 (particularly at home) and aren’t obvious enough to be overturned but aren’t given against top 6 teams at home and by the same token aren’t obvious enough to be overturned.

 

Salah gets that all day at the other end in front of The Kop.

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5 hours ago, Abacus said:

It could, but the ref didn't give it and it was debatable enough not to be a clear & obvious error for VAR to overturn it. The different opinions on here suggest that.

 

If it had been given, I wouldn't expect VAR to overturn that decision either.

 

It's one of those that falls into judgement territory so it is hardly some howling injustice.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think it was a pen. Didn't think it was a clear enough foul and that fingermouse was play-acting. Had it been given I'd have thought it a bit soft, but would probably have shrugged and thought 'yeah, fine'.

 

There are virtually no penalty decisions that fans don't debate, so for pens, clear and obvious is always a subjective thing. 

 

If that took place in the centre circle, there'd be no debate. Even Carragher admitted that in commentary. Once it's in the penalty area, people seem to apply different criteria to what is and isn't a foul.

 

If that's Salah at the other end, I'm confident it'd be given immediately by the on-field ref and if it isn't, I couldn't possibly see VAR turning a blind eye to that. Not with the slow motion replays and all the angles. Klopp would go ballistic and pile pressure on the officials and they go into these games knowing that there'll be a lot of heat if a decision like this derails their title bid. Far less heat if Everton are the victim. It's the way things are and always have been.

 

 

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10 hours ago, ilikenewcastle said:

I was amazed how every pundit considered that a 100% nailed on penalty. It would have been very soft and you definitely don't get those at Anfield (especially when you've established yourself as one of the worst divers in the league in your very short career).

 

Personally I wouldn't have given a pen. But it's not a joke pen either if it's given.

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11 hours ago, Abacus said:

It could, but the ref didn't give it and it was debatable enough not to be a clear & obvious error for VAR to overturn it. The different opinions on here suggest that.

 

If it had been given, I wouldn't expect VAR to overturn that decision either.

 

It's one of those that falls into judgement territory so it is hardly some howling injustice.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think it was a pen. Didn't think it was a clear enough foul and that fingermouse was play-acting. Had it been given I'd have thought it a bit soft, but would probably have shrugged and thought 'yeah, fine'.

 

That's fair.

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