BonesJones Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 18:57, BoSelecta said: Burn was a slam dunk of a signing and I’d suck your hands off for an equivalent quality signing of the same age & in the same price bracket who plays upfront. Expand Who's also a Geordie that works his ass off for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 18:37, KaKa said: Dan Burn is ultimately going to transition to being a backup for Botman going forward. He is absolutely European level ability as a back up central defender. He's better than backups sitting on Tottenham, Arsenal, Man Utd and West Ham benches right now, and they're all in Europe this season Expand This is exactly it. Our entire squad needed a revamp, not just CL-level starters. Burn will go from 1st/2nd choice CB (last season) to 2nd/3rd choice (this season) and quite possibly 4th choice at some point in the future. We obviously want to sign those top-quality players but there is still value in players like Burn & Targett who are relatively inexpensive and can transition from "do a job" 7th/8th level (ie. where we are aiming for now) to backups at some point in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 18:15, The Prophet said: Expand Flew in from his holidays in Lyon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Obscure signing, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 This summer we've not been seriously linked with any outfield player over 25 for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 19:38, The College Dropout said: This summer we've not been seriously linked with any outfield player over 25 for a reason. Expand Except for Eriksen and Werner off the top of my head who were both linked pretty regularly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) On 12/08/2022 at 19:38, The College Dropout said: This summer we've not been seriously linked with any outfield player over 25 for a reason. Expand Yes, because they are specifically looking for younger players to grow with the club as they have said countless times. Not every older player is automatically 'poor resale value', because not every signing that is made, is made with the view to eventually selling on for profit. The key is not spending a significant outlay on such older players, which we didn't do. Edited August 12, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 And despite actually signing Targett and Pope, who are both over 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 20:00, Abacus said: And despite actually signing Targett and Pope, who are both over 25. Expand Yup, and again much like Burn, both signed at great value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 18:57, BoSelecta said: Burn was a slam dunk of a signing and I’d suck your hands off for an equivalent quality signing of the same age & in the same price bracket who plays upfront. Expand He's been exceptional, a warrior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 18:57, BoSelecta said: Burn was a slam dunk of a signing and I’d suck your hands off for an equivalent quality signing of the same age & in the same price bracket who plays upfront. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 19:38, The College Dropout said: This summer we've not been seriously linked with any outfield player over 25 for a reason. Expand Weird take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Don’t think we give a single fuck about resale value. We want long term or short term contributors to the squad and they have to fit every single box Howe wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 19:56, KaKa said: Yes, because they are specifically looking for younger players to grow with the club as they have said countless times. Not every older player is automatically 'poor resale value', because not every signing that is made, is made with the view to eventually selling on for profit. The key is not spending a significant outlay on such older players, which we didn't do. Expand Yes exactly - so we are not looking for a Dan Burn short-term type. Again, the hesitation around the Targett transfer is proof. If Targett was 29, I don't think we sign him or at least we take longer to do it. And MT is better than we initially thought he was (fans and mgmt imo). On 12/08/2022 at 20:00, Abacus said: And despite actually signing Targett and Pope, who are both over 25. Expand OUTFIELD - READ. 30 as a GK is the equivalent of mid / late 20's for an outfield player. That's why we gave Pope a 4-year deal and CW/DB 2.5 year deals. The club expect Pope to be here in 3.5 years, they don't for the other 2. They are not the same type of transfer strategically. Pope was bought with the intention of being here post-midtable transition, the other 2 aint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 such massive douchebag. Read that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 21:06, The College Dropout said: Yes exactly - so we are not looking for a Dan Burn short-term type. Again, the hesitation around the Targett transfer is proof. If Targett was 29, I don't think we sign him or at least we take longer to do it. And MT is better than we initially thought he was (fans and mgmt imo). OUTFIELD - READ. 30 as a GK is the equivalent of mid / late 20's for an outfield player. That's why we gave Pope a 4-year deal and CW/DB 2.5 year deals. The club expect Pope to be here in 3.5 years, they don't for the other 2. They are not the same type of transfer strategically. Pope was bought with the intention of being here post-midtable transition, the other 2 aint. Expand This guy man At this point I genuinely don't even understand what point you're trying to make anymore as it's all so muddled up now. Hope you enjoy the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 21:05, Kanji said: Don’t think we give a single fuck about resale value. We want long term or short term contributors to the squad and they have to fit every single box Howe wants. Expand When you focus on players 25 and under - resale value is an inherent factor. When FFP is a significant factor - resale value is also a significant factor. Because you know, every club sells players and selling players generates revenue. I don't think we'll have a window signing 2 players 29 and older for the first team again in this current phase of our evolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 21:12, KaKa said: This guy man At this point I genuinely don't even understand what point you're trying to make anymore as it's all so muddled up now. Hope you enjoy the season. Expand Doubtful, at this point, I think he'd find some fault with a Mila Kunis BJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 21:16, LionOfGosforth said: Doubtful, at this point, I think he'd find some fault with a Mila Kunis BJ Expand Well technically she’s also Meg from Family guy so you wouldn’t be able close your eyes during the process etc etc something like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 21:06, The College Dropout said: OUTFIELD - READ. Expand Is Targett not an outfield player? One of the two first teamers we've actually bought. You seem angry about things you've invented in your own head. Anyway, I'm not sure there's anything of substance or interest worth debating, so let's leave it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Imagine being so consistently wrong about everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 12/08/2022 at 22:09, reefatoon said: Imagine being so consistently wrong about everything. Expand It's not even that he's necessarily wrong, it's that he goes on about it in such a needlessly arrogant manner. 'Shite Ronaldo tribute act' as someone put it just absolutely nails it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Not reading the last 2/3 pages of shite, just want to say don’t bother using Wood as an example when it comes to transfers. Absolute exception, bought for to much money (which management knew at the time) because of the desperate position we were in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Probably fake but made me smile ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) On 12/08/2022 at 21:05, Kanji said: Don’t think we give a single fuck about resale value. We want long term or short term contributors to the squad and they have to fit every single box Howe wants. Expand They better be, you have to be able to sell players to stay solvent with FFP. Newcastle haven't got a fucking dime on their players. No resale value. edit: I mean who they now have outgoing. Obviously they are accumulating players with real value on the squad. Just saying that needs to continue, even through the youth program. Edited August 13, 2022 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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